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Re: Twinkies?

Postby Andyc » Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:16 am

Handsomepolack wrote:Andy c we are bit like Greece i think, socialism ,entitlement, a welfare state..........troubled years ahead i think :roll:


I am just a half Polack but great minds think alike.
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Re: Twinkies?

Postby Andyc » Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:21 am

Handsomepolack wrote:civil servants you lucky .....blanks, you got it made, private sector no raises or pensions, hummm, something not quite fair i think.


The whole idea of civil service unions creates so many conflicts of interest and such an incestuous relationship that fairness is not possible.
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Re: Twinkies?

Postby Igeteven » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:09 am

Went to Staters Bros last night, everything was sold out. I found out, they made the donuts for them. They also was all gone.
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Re: Twinkies?

Postby Andyc » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:20 am

Igeteven wrote:Went to Staters Bros last night, everything was sold out. I found out, they made the donuts for them. They also was all gone.


You were lucky. Eating the Hostess products with all of that sugar and artificial ingredients certainly can't be the healthiest thing to do.
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Re: Twinkies?

Postby Igeteven » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:41 am

Andy C


You are right on the nail, however,but what a way to go out :lol:
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Re: Twinkies?

Postby MaryS » Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:01 am

I hate it when I don't forward chain letter and I die the next day!
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Re: Twinkies?

Postby Kermit » Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:16 am

Handsomepolack wrote:Andy c we are bit like Greece i think, socialism ,entitlement, a welfare state..........troubled years ahead i think :roll:


Our Post Office has reached it's borrowing limit (of $15 Billion), can now only borrow from the Government. Shows another Union problem - in good times the unions vote themselves great retirement plans with forever health care. Now the post office is on a downward trend with no up in sight and there's not enough workers pouring money into the funds for all the prior workers who are retired AND sustain their own benefits AND show a profit for the corp.
Unions were never 'designed' for civil service workers, but governments thought they should be seen as the perfect ideal workplace. Of course they immediately passed laws not allowing strikes on themselves, etc.

A mess.
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Re: Twinkies?

Postby MaryS » Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:35 pm

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/ ... XS20121119


Reuters) - Hostess Brands Inc agreed in court on Monday to enter private mediation with its lenders and leaders of a striking union to try to avert the liquidation of the maker of Twinkies snack cakes and Wonder Bread.

Hostess, its lenders and the Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International Union (BCTGM) agreed to mediation at the urging of Bankruptcy Judge Robert Drain of the Southern District of New York, who advised against a more expensive, public hearing regarding the company's liquidation...
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Re: Twinkies?

Postby The Bart » Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:52 pm

Andyc wrote:Not many have been known to do so. So I don't accept your "fact".

A business shouldn't have to offer any proof. If the workers don't want to work for what is offered they can just say no or go elsewhere. They can go out and start their own business with their skills and keep all of the profit.



You don't have to accept the fact, but it's the truth. Maybe you see workers the way China sees it's workers as a commodity, like cattle. In every successful company, employee's "personal investment" of loyalty and labor has been the main reason for success. Maybe with this new idea of treating labor as a commodity, we're seeing more and more businesses that were always successful, become unsuccessful.
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Re: Twinkies?

Postby The Bart » Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:59 pm

Handsomepolack wrote:Andy c we are bit like Greece i think, socialism ,entitlement, a welfare state..........troubled years ahead i think :roll:



Troubled years are in our rear view mirror, I think.
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