Crazykid wrote:optimizer is by smart strike who has thrown many graded dirt stakes winners
1st dam by ap indy
2nd dam by mr.prospector who is a g1 winner on dirt and has produced a g1 winner on dirt
3rd dam g1 winner on dirt and has produced a g1 winner on dirt
under the 1st 3 dams you will find at least 20 dirt stakes winners
This is such a joke. Optimizer is by ENGLISH CHANNEL, a horse that never started on dirt, despite being in Todd Pletcher's care. You talk about how the damside is so much more important pedigree-wise, yet use the sires to back up your frivolous argument.
More importantly, Optimizer is trained by Wayne Lukas, who is not interested in turf horses, yet started him on turf. That speaks to his dirt ability.
Optimizer's dam and 2nd dam have produced more steeplechase winners than route winners. His pedigree is so ridiculously turf heavy it's not even funny. The best racehorse from his 2nd dam was Finder's Fee, who was a one-run sprinter owned by the Phipps.
It's one thing for you to have strong opinions. It's another to actually try to back them up with facts.
I'm not even going to touch that you keep touting Double Rah Rah, who is now 0-3 and recently lost for the 2nd straight time after setting a soft pace, this time to a horse coming out of a 25k claimer.