top 3 for me

[Hollywoodmike]

so what. i heard babe ruth was pretty good too. the owner doesnt mean anything zero zilch none nothing
last time i checked the shieks who have outspent every body cant win the derby either.
talk is cheap, lets see what happens monday, a race i dont expect optimizer to win. all he has to do is come running at the wire to set him up perfectly for the rebel. if he were to win this race, then he would be doing it on pure class alone at a distance way to short for him, which at least to me would make him the derby favorite

I predict he will have no impact in the Southwest. Will run in the back of the pack the entire race without making any impact. Chart will say "dull."
Can't DWL who is in the hall of fame see that this is strictly a grass runner. A blind squirrel could figure that out. He is bred for turf yet
DWL is chasing a pipedream. There is ample purse $ in the grass division for him to chase. For Christsakes, DWL get off your high horse!!!!!!
As for winning on pure class, he doesn't have any. A maiden winner only. Were you asleep the day they taught Horseracing 101?

[Crazykid]

the horse is NOT NOT bred for grass but is by far and away the best bred 3 year old mile and a quarter dirt horse in the country.
will he run to that? no one could tell this early on. no other 3 year old has the g1 dirt female family that he has

[Crazykid]

optimizer is by smart strike who has thrown many graded dirt stakes winners
1st dam by ap indy
2nd dam by mr.prospector who is a g1 winner on dirt and has produced a g1 winner on dirt
3rd dam g1 winner on dirt and has produced a g1 winner on dirt

under the 1st 3 dams you will find at least 20 dirt stakes winners

[Crazykid]

so what. i heard babe ruth was pretty good too. the owner doesnt mean anything zero zilch none nothing
last time i checked the shieks who have outspent every body cant win the derby either.
talk is cheap, lets see what happens monday, a race i dont expect optimizer to win. all he has to do is come running at the wire to set him up perfectly for the rebel. if he were to win this race, then he would be doing it on pure class alone at a distance way to short for him, which at least to me would make him the derby favorite

I predict he will have no impact in the Southwest. Will run in the back of the pack the entire race without making any impact. Chart will say "dull."
Can't DWL who is in the hall of fame see that this is strictly a grass runner. A blind squirrel could figure that out. He is bred for turf yet
DWL is chasing a pipedream. There is ample purse $ in the grass division for him to chase. For Christsakes, DWL get off your high horse!!!!!!
As for winning on pure class, he doesn't have any. A maiden winner only. Were you asleep the day they taught Horseracing 101?

you obviously have little knoweledge about breeding.

[Kermit]

You think maybe the OWNER is pursuing his dream? Lukas is keen on Optimizer, I know. It's silly to argue about it when they are going to run the race.
With A. P. Indy and Smart Strike as his granddaddys you wouldn't think running on dirt shouldn't be a problem.
The goal is, can the horse get 10f, peaking in early May.
Like Wayne says, treat them all like champions, and let them disappoint you.

[Crazykid]

to predict the derby winner in february is like hitting the lottery. i cant remember when one of the feb favorites won the race. optimizer has a better chance than at least 15 of the horses listed on the churchill future bet, because none of those are going to ever get a mile and a quarter and he will. his pedigree, trainer, or owner arent why he gets beat thats for sure. the southwest doesnt set up for him, one mile, short stretch, should he find a way to win this race then he would have to be in anyone's top 12. im just looking for a nice improved race and to be within 5 lengths at the wire, which will make him double tough in the rebel (which again is to short for him) then the ark derby (which again is to short for him)

1st dam by ap indy winner of the belmont
2nd dam by mr. prospector sire of a winner of the derby
3rd dam by riva ridge winner of the derby

[Crazykid]

for what its worth, dwl had this to say about optimizer this morning
he is the best horse to be sure.a lot of the other horses have to improve,move forward and increase thier figures., but talent wise he is already there. the southwest is to short for him, he will better at a mile and an 8th and at a mile and a quarter later on.

[Crazykid]

Blugrass Hall LLC, Optimizer's owner, had 4 winners for the calendar year 2011. Two straight maidens including Optimizer's turf win, one
maiden claiming race, and one non winners of two allowance win. Now they are going to win the Grade 1 Kentucky Derby???? Drug test.

oh and bluegrass hall boards many of the very best broodmares in the world.

[Thinkinproblem]

so what. i heard babe ruth was pretty good too. the owner doesnt mean anything zero zilch none nothing
last time i checked the shieks who have outspent every body cant win the derby either.
talk is cheap, lets see what happens monday, a race i dont expect optimizer to win. all he has to do is come running at the wire to set him up perfectly for the rebel. if he were to win this race, then he would be doing it on pure class alone at a distance way to short for him, which at least to me would make him the derby favorite

I predict he will have no impact in the Southwest. Will run in the back of the pack the entire race without making any impact. Chart will say "dull."
Can't DWL who is in the hall of fame see that this is strictly a grass runner. A blind squirrel could figure that out. He is bred for turf yet
DWL is chasing a pipedream. There is ample purse $ in the grass division for him to chase. For Christsakes, DWL get off your high horse!!!!!!
As for winning on pure class, he doesn't have any. A maiden winner only. Were you asleep the day they taught Horseracing 101?

I wasn't asleep the day HM climbed on to this board and factually claimed that Uncle Mo won the Kentucky Derby.

[Crazykid]

huh? of course that was in jest. i did like him to win, i dont think anyone can absolutely say if the sun is ever coming out again.
just remembrer had you bet every horse i have ever posted in the last 15 years on this site you would be way ahead today. i dont think any public handicapper has even come close.