some concern

[Crazykid]

absolutely one of the worst rides i have ever seen by guitereez. the horse would have won that race easy if he had set back 10+ lengths and made one run. exactly what i said before the race, that if they put him near the pace he would do exactly what he did.

[DegenerationX]

absolutely one of the worst rides i have ever seen by guitereez. the horse would have won that race easy if he had set back 10+ lengths and made one run. exactly what i said before the race, that if they put him near the pace he would do exactly what he did.

And if the Patriots had scored an additional 20 points they would be representing the AFC in the Super Bowl.

[MrWu]

the horse would have won that race easy if he had set back 10+ lengths and made one run. exactly what i said before the race, that if they put him near the pace he would do exactly what he did.

And if the Patriots had scored an additional 20 points they would be representing the AFC in the Super Bowl.

Sharp post.

[Claimboxx]

absolutely one of the worst rides i have ever seen by guitereez. the horse would have won that race easy if he had set back 10+ lengths and made one run. exactly what i said before the race, that if they put him near the pace he would do exactly what he did.

He looked terrible, skinny and sore in the paddock, Gutierrez hit him about ten times going to the gate, and he looked terrible pulling up...

[Vince P]

absolutely one of the worst rides i have ever seen by guitereez. the horse would have won that race easy if he had set back 10+ lengths and made one run. exactly what i said before the race, that if they put him near the pace he would do exactly what he did.

He looked terrible, skinny and sore in the paddock, Gutierrez hit him about ten times going to the gate, and he looked terrible pulling up...

From what I've read in here, Drug O'Neill should be shot for even running him.

Am I correct?

Vince P

[Hollywoodmike]

O'Neill and Reddam can chase their pipedream of back to back Derby winners. It will never happen. O'Neill is no Lucien Laurin.

[Southieboy]

O'Neill and Reddam can chase their pipedream of back to back Derby winners. It will never happen. O'Neill is no Lucien Laurin.

He's Had Enough will still in the spotlight over the spring/summer, that of course being the Del Mar 3yo grass races unless they decided to throw him to the wolves in the TC series.

I also wonder how much longer they will employ Guiterrez as a rider for some of their stake horses.

[Claimboxx]

O'Neill and Reddam can chase their pipedream of back to back Derby winners. It will never happen. O'Neill is no Lucien Laurin.

He's Had Enough will still in the spotlight over the spring/summer, that of course being the Del Mar 3yo grass races unless they decided to throw him to the wolves in the TC series.

I also wonder how much longer they will employ Guiterrez as a rider for some of their stake horses.

Can't hold Gutierrez accountable at all... The horse looks, trains and is running poorly...

[Tvghrtvfan]

I think HHE is a fluke

[LordsTable]

absolutely one of the worst rides i have ever seen by guitereez. the horse would have won that race easy if he had set back 10+ lengths and made one run. exactly what i said before the race, that if they put him near the pace he would do exactly what he did.

I thought jockey's didn't matter? Maybe the horse isn't very good?