If HP closes ?

[Andyc]

Hollywood was responsible for putting in the low takeout P5. I hope they stay open indefinitely.

By the way if sports betting ever gets approved it could be a game changer for Hollywood Park.

You can have a low takeout P-5 anywhere.

If sports betting were approved in CA I would hate the idea that it somehow be restricted to racetracks or in anyway. Propping up a losing business with a successful monopoly doesn't cure the ills of racing.

[Andymays]

Hollywood was responsible for putting in the low takeout P5. I hope they stay open indefinitely.

By the way if sports betting ever gets approved it could be a game changer for Hollywood Park.

You can have a low takeout P-5 anywhere.

If sports betting were approved in CA I would hate the idea that it somehow be restricted to racetracks or in anyway. Propping up a losing business with a successful monopoly doesn't cure the ills of racing.

The only way it would be approved is if it was done that way to satisfy the Casinos. If they do let it go online they will probably charge more juice in the beginning.

[Andyc]

The only way it would be approved is if it was done that way to satisfy the Casinos. If they do let it go online they will probably charge more juice in the beginning.

Fortunately sports betting is widespread and the "juice" charged by the books is affected by the laws of supply and demand. I am sure that there are enough idiots out there who will bet paying above market juice but there won't be significant play until the rates are market comparable.

[Kermit]

You can have a low takeout P-5 anywhere.

If sports betting were approved in CA I would hate the idea that it somehow be restricted to racetracks or in anyway. Propping up a losing business with a successful monopoly doesn't cure the ills of racing.

The Cal Casinos exist only because their land is considered separate from the USA. OK, fine, but how does that give them the power to have the say-so on gambling in the State of California?
OK, I propose cash-stripped California set up toll roads about a mile away from all access to all the Indian reservations, $10 a car would be a good start, but allow it to be increased as needed. Those stations could also collect the port fees for food and drink coming into the Indian Nations.

Wow - I'm calling Jerry today, since he never takes LSD on Wednesdays.

[Goofonroof]

You can have a low takeout P-5 anywhere.

If sports betting were approved in CA I would hate the idea that it somehow be restricted to racetracks or in anyway. Propping up a losing business with a successful monopoly doesn't cure the ills of racing.

The Cal Casinos exist only because their land is considered separate from the USA. OK, fine, but how does that give them the power to have the say-so on gambling in the State of California?
OK, I propose cash-stripped California set up toll roads about a mile away from all access to all the Indian reservations, $10 a car would be a good start, but allow it to be increased as needed. Those stations could also collect the port fees for food and drink coming into the Indian Nations.

Wow - I'm calling Jerry today, since he never takes LSD on Wednesdays.

Hollendorfer always naps about now on non racing days. Better wait till feed time.

[Joel]

OK, I propose cash-stripped California..

Wow - I'm calling Jerry today, since he never takes LSD on Wednesdays.

Cash strapped? I see you haven't been following California's finances since you left the Golden State..

Budget SURPLUS, baby!

SACRAMENTO, Jan 10 (Reuters) - California's budget deficit is gone after years of financial troubles, Governor Jerry Brown said on Thursday, proposing a plan that raises spending on education and healthcare, boosting total expenditures by 5 percent.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/1 ... 50349.html

[Kermit]

OK, I propose cash-stripped California..

Wow - I'm calling Jerry today, since he never takes LSD on Wednesdays.

Cash strapped? I see you haven't been following California's finances since you left the Golden State..

Budget SURPLUS, baby!

SACRAMENTO, Jan 10 (Reuters) - California's budget deficit is gone after years of financial troubles, Governor Jerry Brown said on Thursday, proposing a plan that raises spending on education and healthcare, boosting total expenditures by 5 percent.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/1 ... 50349.html

Wow. Impressive. I stand corrected!

[Kermit]

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The Cal Casinos exist only because their land is considered separate from the USA. OK, fine, but how does that give them the power to have the say-so on gambling in the State of California?
OK, I propose cash-stripped California set up toll roads about a mile away from all access to all the Indian reservations, $10 a car would be a good start, but allow it to be increased as needed. Those stations could also collect the port fees for food and drink coming into the Indian Nations.

Wow - I'm calling Jerry today, since he never takes LSD on Wednesdays.

Hollendorfer always naps about now on non racing days. Better wait till feed time.

Good point Thanks for the heads-up.

[MaryS]

http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.c ... tors-23876

...A recent analysis of state and federal campaign donations by the Center for Responsive Politics in Washington, D.C. found that in the campaign cycles of 2007 and 2008, four of the top 10 largest donors in the U.S. were tribes and tribal interests in California. The Pechanga Band of Luiseño Indians, the Morongo Band of Mission Indians, the Agua Caliente Band of Cahuilla Indians, and a tribally organized group called Tribes for Fair Play spent a combined total of $129.8 million on state and national political campaigns; together they donated more than double that of the top national donor, the National Education As sociation, which spent $56.3 million. All of them are big gaming tribes (except for Tribes for Fair Play), and all of them want to protect their newly built empires. Beyond the top 10, California tribes had three more donors in the top 50 and another three in the top 1,000. Non-California tribes in the top 1,000 were the Chickasaw and Choctaw Nations and the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians; the Passamaquoddy Tribe of Maine; and the Seminole Nation of Florida....

[Andyc]

Budget SURPLUS, baby!

SACRAMENTO, Jan 10 (Reuters) - California's budget deficit is gone after years of financial troubles, Governor Jerry Brown said on Thursday, proposing a plan that raises spending on education and healthcare, boosting total expenditures by 5 percent.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/1 ... 50349.html

Don't be so fast to drink the kool-aid. Start here. http://www.nbcbayarea.com/video/#!/news ... -/18657070

Brown wants to make it look like raising taxes is the answer so that MORE taxes can be raised before reality sets in.