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Bart, et al,
Watchu thinks about this?
Wandering Dago food truck booted from Saratoga track for name
http://blog.timesunion.com/tablehopping ... -for-name/
As a fellow 117% Italian like my cuzin TonythePony, Vince really didn't think this was no big loving deal and they should never have banned the joint.
Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea.
Avatar: My cuzin Isaac Murphy - a jock I'm tying to emulate in character and winning percentage - almost 47% lifetime.
Eggsactly - as Kenya Moore recently advised, “Don’t worry about what they call you, what matters is what you answer to …”
Oh wait, mistake, that was W.C. Fields - Kenya said “Don’t come for me unless I send for you …”
Both good general rules for living lol ...
Great article about it.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/96892 ... asy-sounds
And it's not going to be easy telling the Kingston (Okla.) High School (57.7 percent Native American) Redskins that the name they've worn on their uniforms for 104 years has been a joke on them this whole time. Because they wear it with honor.
"We have two great tribes here," says Kingston assistant school superintendent Ron Whipkey, "the Chicasaw and the Choctaw. And not one member of those tribes has ever come to me or our school with a complaint. It is a prideful thing to them."
"It's a name that honors the people," says Kingston English teacher Brett Hayes, who is Choctaw. "The word 'Oklahoma' itself is Choctaw for 'red people.' The students here don't want it changed. To them, it seems like it's just people who have no connection with the Native American culture, people out there trying to draw attention to themselves.
"My kids are really afraid we're going to lose the Redskin name. They say to me, 'They're not going to take it from us, are they, Dad?'"
Too late. White America has spoken. You aren't offended, so we'll be offended for you
They say to me, 'They're not going to take it from us, are they, Dad?'"
Oh puuuleazzzze!!!! Gagging Emoticon
Too late. White America has spoken. You aren't offended, so we'll be offended for you?
The above is a really stupid statement and a lie, since it is Native Americans like the Oneida Tribe in Wisconsin, The Sioux in the Dakotas etc. that find mascots like these offensive. I just happen to agree, that the term "Redskin" is a deragatory term and not professional and this mascot name for a professional football team should be changed. To want to cling to this name "Redskin" for the Washington team is just childish and reminds me of a toddler not willing to give up his blankey.
No, I just read what you copied and pasted. Why? Is there something in the entire article that would lead me to change my mind and make me think it's ok for the NFL Washington team to continue using a derogatory mascot name and associated symbol that offends many Native Americans?
Are you trying to play a trick, by posting the article "in part" and catching me in some way on the response that I wrote, because I did not read the entire article?
I responded to the "in part" article you copied and pasted. Next time, If you want me to read the entire article, let the link stand alone, without copying and pasting the article "in part" or simply copy and paste the entire article.
No tricks! Mary did ask us to put a few lines from any post to perhaps generate some interest.
It's dopey simply because there's no tribe called the Redskins. Find a tribe that will appreciate the honor, and name the team after them. For Chrissakes, it's not difficult.
It's more dopey because "Redskins" is a derorgatory name, but it seems that people, (especially white people) can't understand why it's offensive.
Here's why: Take the example about the Saratoga Food Truck posted above. The food truck is named the "Wandering Dago" and people (presumably Italian people) complained and found it offensive. Why? Because "Dago" is a derogatory name for people of Italian heritage. Yet the poster (who apparently is also Italian) proudly boasted that he and his Italian friends were not offended and that the food truck should have been allowed to stay as is.
Why would he not be offended, knowing the word "Dago" is deragatory term applied to our ancestory? Personally I don't know why, but if I had to guess, it would be because he probably believes the business was owned by people of Italian descent.
Now let's take this scenario. Let's presume now, that the food truck the "Wandering Dago" was conceived and owned by a non-italian. In this case let's presume it was conceived and owned by an African American entreprenaur, who is well known throughout the country, and very successful in other endeavors and now has started up a new mobile Italian food business. He and his board of directors name the business the"Wandering Dago" because after all the term only meant "pay as the day goes" to the Italian peasant. Nevermind that the name "Dago" has become an offensive name to Italians, similar to the "N" word for African Americans, the "P" word to Polish Americans, the "S" word for Hispanic Americans, etc. etc.
He parks the first "Wandering Dago" truck at Saratoga and brings with him 10 employees of different ethnic backgrounds (none of them italian but maybe one or two, may have an italian ancestor way back in their heritage). He has some of his employees symbolically dress like Italian peasants (maybe the men dress like Chico Marx, with that goofy little pointed hat and a fake handlebar mustache, and the women dress like their ready to crush grapes ). He has them learn stereotypical italian accents. He has them symbollically hold their hands, palms up, to give the impression they are looking for their "daily pay" while they advertise, through the crowd, for his food truck.
He and his other employees back at the truck, wear matching business casual shirts. On each of their shirts there is a bold and unmistakable emblem of an Italian peasant, hands held palms up for his daily pay, known as "Guieseppe the Wandering Dago."
Given the scenario above, do you think that "most" Italian Americans would be offended? Remember many Italian Americans (myself included) still have a close ethnic identification probably because we were the most recent to arrive in America from Europe. I would answer, "of course."
Is there any difference to the scenario above, that wouldn't apply to the offense taken by many Native Americans, for the name Washington "Redskins?"
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