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Re: Week 9 College Football Observations...

Postby Masterp » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:32 pm

Andy, I have seen plenty of good teams and even championship teams get better as the season progresses and get revenge over teams that got the better of them earlier in the year. And because of that I stick by my opinion that today, Oregon is the better team than Boise. That could change between now and the end of the season (another 3 or 4 games each).
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Re: Week 9 College Football Observations...

Postby Masterp » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:36 pm

Beckron wrote:Oregon beats Boise State in a second game on a neutral field? How about beat them where you play them? The team plays 12 regular games a year, how many are played on a "neutral" field.


Aren't Bowl games typically played on neutral fields? They obviously aren't going to play on either teams home field. My point to the whole conversation is, that in my opinion, on a neutral field (as if they were meeting in a bowl game), Oregon would beat them.

I am not saying I know all that there is about CFB. Heck, Oregon could go out and lose to Stanford and this whole conversation will be a moot point, But I live in the Northwest and I get the opportunity to watch just about every game of these two particular schools and I feel that Oregon has gotten better each and every week and at this point are the better team.
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Re: Week 9 College Football Observations...

Postby Joel » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:46 pm

Don't count out the Aztecs to "shock the world" and beat TCU at the Q on Saturday afternoon.

Only 24 point underdogs..b-)
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Re: Week 9 College Football Observations...

Postby Andyc » Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:16 pm

Masterp wrote:Andy, I have seen plenty of good teams and even championship teams get better as the season progresses and get revenge over teams that got the better of them earlier in the year. And because of that I stick by my opinion that today, Oregon is the better team than Boise. That could change between now and the end of the season (another 3 or 4 games each).


I am neither a Boise fan nor an Oregon fan. I look at Oregon and I see a team that plays great at home but doesn't bring their offense with them on the road. Their defense and special teams are good which should keep them in most games. Their final road games will be a great barometer.

As for Boise, they have done nothing wrong other than belonging to the wrong conference. They have as much first line talent as Oregon but lack depth as do most second tier conference schools. They come to play every week and they seldom are embarrassed. Their offense shows up for away games.
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Re: Week 9 College Football Observations...

Postby Emerald_Tom » Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:57 pm

Top 8 for ND. I hadn't thought of them when writing up my previous post, but to the BCS they would definitely appeal more than any of the teams I mentioned. ND has Navy, @ Pitt, Conn, @ Stanford to end the season. Me thinks the Stanford game will be a loss for ND.[/quote]

OK, I did some research and I think ND can be picked if they come in the top FOURTEEN. I think they are guaranteed if they are in the top 8. So if ND is ranked 14, you think a bowl is going to pass on them for Boise or TCU. And then ESPN will also say "yeah pass on Notre Dame and take a Mountain West/WAC Team".

Although I think ND will lose to Pitt and/or Stanford so it will be moot. But if they win out, I'd bet money that they are in a BCS Bowl game.
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Re: Week 9 College Football Observations...

Postby Srotagtbs » Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:23 pm

Emerald_Tom wrote:Top 8 for ND. I hadn't thought of them when writing up my previous post, but to the BCS they would definitely appeal more than any of the teams I mentioned. ND has Navy, @ Pitt, Conn, @ Stanford to end the season. Me thinks the Stanford game will be a loss for ND.

OK, I did some research and I think ND can be picked if they come in the top FOURTEEN. I think they are guaranteed if they are in the top 8. So if ND is ranked 14, you think a bowl is going to pass on them for Boise or TCU. And then ESPN will also say "yeah pass on Notre Dame and take a Mountain West/WAC Team".

Although I think ND will lose to Pitt and/or Stanford so it will be moot. But if they win out, I'd bet money that they are in a BCS Bowl game.


Of course the bowls will take ND over Boise or TCU. ND will bring more "economic stimulus" and attention to the game than TCU/Boise. There are a lot more ND fans than TCU/Boise fans combined (I think ).

But all 3 teams need to win out before we see/talk about who got shafted.
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Re: Week 9 College Football Observations...

Postby Jocan16 » Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:27 pm

ND should be tossed from any bowl selection solely based on coaching decisions way back in the Michigan game. I have never seen a team with the lead and a couple minutes left on the board come out and run for a first down, then throw for three incomplete passes and punt.

My vote for the most awful game management of ALL TIME.
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Re: Week 9 College Football Observations...

Postby Beckron » Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:19 pm

Masterp wrote:
Aren't Bowl games typically played on neutral fields? They obviously aren't going to play on either teams home field. My point to the whole conversation is, that in my opinion, on a neutral field (as if they were meeting in a bowl game), Oregon would beat them.

I am not saying I know all that there is about CFB. Heck, Oregon could go out and lose to Stanford and this whole conversation will be a moot point, But I live in the Northwest and I get the opportunity to watch just about every game of these two particular schools and I feel that Oregon has gotten better each and every week and at this point are the better team.


If they are better now, aren't you just trying to say the Boise State trip would be a winning one at this point in the season?

No need for netural field, I think what you are saying that if the game was at this point in the season rather than early, it would have had a different outcome. Right?
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Re: Week 9 College Football Observations...

Postby Masterp » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:35 pm

Yes that's what I would have said prior to yesterday, god did Oregon and their D not show up. I will refrain from using any of my "logic" when it comes to CFB in 2009. :D
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