Little debate on gun control.

[Moegray]

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how are you going to protect yourself against the government if you dont have equal weapons to what they have?

[Kermit]

Little debate, that last thread was deleted when the site when down

The Constitution says, we have the right to bare arm.

This was written over 200 years ago.

However, this is fact, back then, one need a gun to survive , to hunt for food, to keep the Indians away and protect your family or for the State Military.


Now, I can't see it, I have a police dept to protect me, I don't have to hunt for food , we have a have good military, and I don't see any Indians on the warpath except in the Casinos.

No civilian should have an military rifle or An <img src="/images/chat/RedRose.gif">ault rifle for home use.

Yes or no.


Anyone.

The police don't save you. They are called after an altercation. They bring a white sheet to cover your body up, and lots of yellow plastic ribbon.
Azzault rifle and military-type firearm are only buzz-words and have no accurate meaning.
All anti-gun laws have one thing in common - they assume the bad guys will obey the law. They won't, that's why they're bad guys. So the police and the bad guys have the guns. The bad guys always get to your house first.
Civilians can not buy fully automatic weapons without approval from God. We can buy semi-automatic guns, that fires the bullet, then ejects the shell and places a live round in the chamber. Someone still has to pull the trigger to fire the round. It's still that person's personal responsibility to fire or not.

I have a 20-gauge semi-automatic shotgun for home-protection. Why shoot a tiny little bullet at something in the dark when my 7 1/2-shot load will bLow a 12" hole through someone at 10 feet?

[Crazykid]

remind me to stay away from that gold.

[Kermit]

remind me to stay away from that gold.

[The Bart]

how are you going to protect yourself against the government if you dont have equal weapons to what they have?

I'm not going to protect myself against myself. You don't have to protect yourself against yourself. In the United States, I am the government, and you are the government and everybody on this forum is the government. We elect representatives to meet at a collective place. Those representative's polictical fate is in our hands and all we have to do is become politically involved and above all we have to vote!!!

The most frightening ideology to me, are people who think that our government has become disengaged from it's citizens, that they think they need firearms to protect themselves, when in fact just the opposite seems true. It seems to me that citizens that think that way, have themselves disengaged from the government, and as such believe that the government no longer represents them because those citizens have not gotten involved or voted etc.

[The Bart]

Little debate, that last thread was deleted when the site when down

The Constitution says, we have the right to bare arm.

This was written over 200 years ago.

However, this is fact, back then, one need a gun to survive , to hunt for food, to keep the Indians away and protect your family or for the State Military.


Now, I can't see it, I have a police dept to protect me, I don't have to hunt for food , we have a have good military, and I don't see any Indians on the warpath except in the Casinos.

No civilian should have an military rifle or An <i_g s="/images/chat/RedRose.gif">ault rifle for home use.

Yes or no.


Anyone.

The police don't save you. They are called after an altercation. They bring a white sheet to cover your body up, and lots of yellow plastic ribbon.
Azzault rifle and military-type firearm are only buzz-words and have no accurate meaning.
All anti-gun laws have one thing in common - they assume the bad guys will obey the law. They won't, that's why they're bad guys. So the police and the bad guys have the guns. The bad guys always get to your house first.
Civilians can not buy fully automatic weapons without approval from God. We can buy semi-automatic guns, that fires the bullet, then ejects the shell and places a live round in the chamber. Someone still has to pull the trigger to fire the round. It's still that person's personal responsibility to fire or not.

I have a 20-gauge semi-automatic shotgun for home-protection. Why shoot a tiny little bullet at something in the dark when my 7 1/2-shot load will bLow a 12" hole through someone at 10 feet?

Here's a few questions I have.

1. How many times has your scenario, of the bad guy getting to your house, before the police happened to you?

2. What good is your gun going to do you if the bad guy gets the drop on you, which will probably happen?

Did you ever wonder why people in Canada, or England or France, where they have some form of gun control don't have the same mental processing of a projected fear, that you have written in your post, that has very low odds of ever happening?

I don't own a gun, never have, never will own a gun. Guns are dangerous. The only time I ever fired a weapon was in the military, and I was scared then because I didn't know if the guy next to me was going to make a mistake and accidentally point his weapon where he shouldn't. I tell everybody I know that I will never own a gun. People all over my neighborhood and where I work know I don't have a gun. Nobody has ever come to my house and tried to break in or tried to rob me.

So why do you think this scenario will happen to you and why do you think a gun will help you if it does happen to you??

[The Bart]

Little debate, that last thread was deleted when the site when down

The Constitution says, we have the right to bare arm.

This was written over 200 years ago.

However, this is fact, back then, one need a gun to survive , to hunt for food, to keep the Indians away and protect your family or for the State Military.


Now, I can't see it, I have a police dept to protect me, I don't have to hunt for food , we have a have good military, and I don't see any Indians on the warpath except in the Casinos.

No civilian should have an military rifle or An <img src="/images/chat/RedRose.gif">ault rifle for home use.

Yes or no.

Anyone.

The answer is: We don't need guns, in our modern day society. However, we have the right to own them. I would like to think that if a sane, reasonable, non criminal person has to have a gun, that he or she has owns guns as a hobby or for sport (ie. legal hunting or target shooting).

[Igeteven]

Did anyone of you ever seen the series on the History Channel called Tale of the Gun. ?

[Bloker]

Really good stuff to think about, Bart.

I guess what it comes down to for me is when something like 9/11 happens, I'm really glad that many of my fellow Americans are armed.

Think I heard one of the analysts over the weekend say something like the average American has a better chance of being struck by lightning than being a victim of gun violence. Did I hear that right?

I guess that's true as long as you don't live in certain areas of Chicago and other big cities.

[Kermit]

1. How many times has your scenario, of the bad guy getting to your house, before the police happened to you?

I've had a car stolen from right in front of my house and I've had a stereo stolen from my truck in front of my house, both in California. They didn't try to come in, they should have because I didn't have any guns when I was in Cal. HOWEVER, the police were NOT there to prevent it.

2. What good is your gun going to do you if the bad guy gets the drop on you, which will probably happen?

About the same as if I had no gun. If someone is breaking down my door or smashing a window I will hear it, my alarm will go off and my dogs will start barking. Why are you assuming they will have the advantage? My shotgun is for skeet shooting but I would press it into service.

You and others do benefit from our gun laws and rights now, because the bad guys have to at least think you might have protection and know how to use it. If you lived in Texas they would KNOW you had a gun in the house.

Please post a sign at the front and back of your house stating "ATTENTION: THERE ARE NO GUNS IN THIS HOUSE". Should make you feel even more safe.

Can't respond to your thoughts about our government being pure as the driven snow, 'cause Mary would lock the thread down.