Sagarin "Lines" v Vegas Lines

[Vince P]

Does anyone in here wager factoring in Sagarin ratings or "points?"

Basically the Sagarin ratings or "lines" are mathematical formulas that determine how many points better Team A is than Team B on a NEUTRAL field. If one team is playing at home then add about 3 (2.87) points to the home team.

The Sagarin ratings were developed by a couple of guys from MIT with input from our very own Triple Threat and Andy C when they were in college many moons ago.

For the most part the Sagarin "point spreads" are pretty close to the Vegas lines.

But there are some huge discrepancies I found in the upcoming Bowl Game lines comparing Sagarin point ratings to Vegas lines.

For example:

Arizona - 8 v Nevada. Sagarin has Arizona 14 points better.

UCF- 7 over Ball St. Sagarin has them even.

Boise St - 7.5 over Washington. Sagarin actually has WA -1.

Oregon - 8 over Kansas State. Sagarin has Oregon just 1 point better. Btw, I believe the Over/Under in this game will be 177.

Alabama - 10.5 over Notre Dame. Sagarin has Alabama 1 point better on a neutral field.

Anyone ever gamble comparing these lines and what is your record?

Vince P

[Theiman]

Does anyone in here wager factoring in Sagarin ratings or "points?"

Basically the Sagarin ratings or "lines" are mathematical formulas that determine how many points better Team A is than Team B on a NEUTRAL field. If one team is playing at home then add about 3 (2.87) points to the home team.

The Sagarin ratings were developed by a couple of guys from MIT with input from our very own Triple Threat and Andy C when they were in college many moons ago.

For the most part the Sagarin "point spreads" are pretty close to the Vegas lines.

But there are some huge discrepancies I found in the upcoming Bowl Game lines comparing Sagarin point ratings to Vegas lines.

For example:


Alabama - 10.5 over Notre Dame. Sagarin has Alabama 1 point better on a neutral field.

Anyone ever gamble comparing these lines and what is your record?

Vince P

I read the Saragin rating's for College BB. Although I dont bet I like to see how competitve teams are supposed to be vs others.

Theiman has ND a -77 point favorite on any field vs any SEC team.
Seems like the Saragin line is a bit closer to mine and Vegas is way off base at Ala -10.5.

[Crazykid]

sagirin=beyer=nitz= all bullshet

[Proro35]

sagirin=beyer=nitz= all bullshet

This.