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Re: Gryder and Solis spill in DMR 10th (Aug 9th)

Postby Wilsonvandal » Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:04 pm

You'd think the on-track vet would be keeping a close, close eye on a horse like that...

I mean, simply from a handicapping perspective you have to wonder - so, it surprises me that the on-track vet wouldn't be microscoping a horse like this... but, what do I know (?) - I have no understanding of the vet's responsibilities or processes when it comes to scratching horses on track.

These are the times when you hope that the horse simply took a bad step...rather than being wrong to being with; or, some problem with the surface.

If it was a horse wrong to begin with... we saw a very devastating breakdown that could have resulted in a lot worse.

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Re: Gryder and Solis spill in DMR 10th (Aug 9th)

Postby Claimboxx » Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:10 pm

Kermit wrote:You probably have the answer, it's just too hard to swallow.
The connections were ready to sell the horse at a big loss, because the horse had a problem.
Yep, it's possible the owner just happened to go bankrupt during those few weeks.

My seemingly unanswerable question is, why do established jockeys take such mounts?
He may owe the trainer a favor, but not one that big.



Solis worked him both times he worked after the race. I doubt he would have ridden him if he hadn't breezed well.
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Re: Gryder and Solis spill in DMR 10th (Aug 9th)

Postby Kermit » Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:04 am

"...Solis worked him both times he worked after the race. I doubt he would have ridden him if he hadn't breezed well..."

Interesting. I still believe the horse was 'for sale' - maybe just because he can't run a lick. Seems like the trainer hasn't had enough time or races to make that judgment.
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Re: Gryder and Solis spill in DMR 10th (Aug 9th)

Postby Bellsbendboy » Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:25 am

As I posted in the Sunday pick four, there were simply no other races to run in. Trainers tend to drop horses of poor efforts and Endless Moons debut was difficult to gauge.

At the sale this altered son of Malibu Moon worked in ten and a tick with b l i n kers on and a few backhanded slaps, eventually bringing double the stud fee. I did not see him prior to Sundays ill fated race but in his debut he carried little condition, then worked back very well under Solis.

A sad ending with no blame.

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Re: Gryder and Solis spill in DMR 10th (Aug 9th)

Postby Classy » Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:48 pm

I just happened to talk to a lady today at work won owns a couple of horses not in racing. She said she heard that was one of the worst spills . My point is it is out there and people better be aware of the back lash.
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Re: Gryder and Solis spill in DMR 10th (Aug 9th)

Postby Combatalbert » Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:18 pm

Why do jockeys take the mounts?It all boils down to Greed!Owners,trainers and jockeys!
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Re: Gryder and Solis spill in DMR 10th (Aug 9th)

Postby Kermit » Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:01 am

Combatalbert wrote:Why do jockeys take the mounts?It all boils down to Greed!Owners,trainers and jockeys!


I did say 'established' jockeys. If you are already a millionaire you should be just a little more selective. More likely the trainer gives the jock a lot of decent mounts and he didn't want to say no to a horse that the connections probably have spent $200,000 on and is dropped into a $25K claiming race.
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Re: Gryder and Solis spill in DMR 10th (Aug 9th)

Postby Stephenlb » Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:24 am

I agree with not taking a horse out that is not 100%. But if horses did not go out because they had an issue hear and there, there would be no racing. Most horses like humans have soreness or issues. There are even good horses that change the oil in the ankle and knees in order to run big. I am not saying all horses have soreness, etc...But a large amount due.
no owner or trainer wants to see their horse break down and die on the track..It is not good PR for anyone...
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Re: Gryder and Solis spill in DMR 10th (Aug 9th)

Postby Knoxville8 » Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:42 pm

Solis falls gets back up and a few days later boots home 2 winners today from 3 mounts. Nice work! Glad to see he is ok.
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Re: Gryder and Solis spill in DMR 10th (Aug 9th)

Postby Classy » Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:03 pm

Stephenlb wrote:I agree with not taking a horse out that is not 100%. But if horses did not go out because they had an issue hear and there, there would be no racing. Most horses like humans have soreness or issues. There are even good horses that change the oil in the ankle and knees in order to run big. I am not saying all horses have soreness, etc...But a large amount due.
no owner or trainer wants to see their horse break down and die on the track..It is not good PR for anyone...



Yes most of us know all this but still......
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