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I dont know, maybe its just me, but I was wondering what the story is with Richard Mandella? It seems his stable has been very cold since Del Mar ended. Also I didnt notice any Breeders-Cup entries or Wins this year either, maybe I'm wrong.
It just doesnt seem to be the same as a couple of years ago, when I use to bet Mandella's stable & get nice results. Oh well eres hoping its just a temprary thing & 2010 we'll see the Mandella we're all use to seeing.
Speaking of Gary, what happened to Albertus Maximus? If I remember correctly, he lost the horse somehow (sale? not sure) then he won the BC race in 2008 and ran in the Dubai WC in 2009?
Please, Be-Leaf, Me, On, This.
Know it is tougher to win allowance and up races than claimers, but seems like he does very little with the type of stock he has. I know the BC and all that, but if I had to pick the top 3 most overrated trainers in CA he would be on my list for sure.
I guess Hall of Famers can be criticized too.. But for me, he is the trainer I respect most. Not only is he a man who can be counted on to get the best out of his horses, but I think it can be fairly said.. he never purposely runs a horse that isn't right and ready. He backs off. He is a man of the highest integrity who always brings credit to our sport.
There are many trainers gracing the top of our standings by taking an edge - sometimes illegally and many times unethically.. but that is not the way of Richard Mandella...
His record speaks for itself, and needs no more defending from me.
I second your comments. Mandella seems like a real horseman's horseman to me. I've always felt really good about him from listening to him and seeing his horses. And I have a strong impression that he remembers people who've been nice to him or his horses, even "little" people with very "little" gestures of best wishes. I remember back when The Tin Man had some physical issues, I sent a get-well card to the horse, via the stable, and next thing I knew, I got a very nice Christmas card with The Tin Man's photo on the front. Mandella shows his gratitude.
Other guys I admire are Jack Van Berg and Ron MacAnally.
These three aren't just trainers, they're horsemen. I think the highest compliment a person involved with horses can receive, is to be considered a horseman; or horsewoman.
Agree with you guys/girls who say he does right by his horses..and I think that is important, especially in this era. I can count the Mandella horses I have seen hurt on the track the last 20 years on one hand. In that aspect I hold him in the highest regard. But I do think of all the top trainers he is one that is easiest to claim from and move up and for the horses he is given I would expect more results. Maybe lack of "veterianary assistance" is the reason, I would assume that is a large part of it...who knows.
You'll have to prove that supposition to me .. because I have quite a different view of things.
I know quite a bit about Mandella.. Not only have I studied him for years, I also sat near him for many years at HollyPark. Occasionally I chatted with him during workouts or in the afternoons. I don't claim to be his friend or confidante.. Though he is given to self-depreciation and practical joking.. if you can catch him in the right mood, he will sometimes give you a straight answer.. Many years ago, I saw a young maiden winner of his go in a 50k claimer. The horse went off at 3-5.. and won by about 6 lengths. There was a shake for that colt. I asked him immediately after the race.. "Did you mind losing that horse"? He said; "No, I don't think he's worth any more than that." I asked a followup question with a little skepticism tossed in. He answered confidently; "I rarely get fooled on a colts value.. once in a while on a filly, yes."
With that in mind, I watched everything that was taken off him for years - closely. And I still do... I'm sure you have some anecdotal evidence for your claim that he is easy to beat in the claiming game, but to make your case, you're going to have to balance your anecdotes against the many horses taken off him that went nowhere. I'd ask you to be more specific about the horses that you expect more results from.. (perhaps some of these well-bred Hughes/Spendthrift bums that he is currently housing)
But when you're ready to explore that avenue with some useful data, I'll join and go through it with you..
Will say Doug Oneill will say Mandella is one of his faves to claim off. Would have to do some work to name a few..I will get back to you. I know he just claimed an expensive Mandella/Hughes horse (Quoted) for 40K, he was a bad beaten fav that day and Oneill put him on the turf and won a straight maiden nicely a week later. Too early to put that in the success column, but the way he won he was immediately worth a lot more than the 40K mandella lost him for. Not saying it is easy to beat anyone in the claiming game, 95% of horses are well sold. But do think it is possible to claim off him, cant say that for Baffert, Mullins, Mitchell, etc
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