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Let say Orb take it all,
Question to owners and trainers
What would this horse be worth and to have a mare breed to him, what would a owner pay for his services.
Remember, no one has won in years, years and more years.
From numbers I have heard about some top recent retirees, I would guess about the 25 million area if Orb can get the job done and win them all. If he were to be able to win super impressively maybe a bit more. I would guess his stud fee would start in the 50-60K area. So at 100+ mares a year, the farm would have recouped about 18,000,000 of their money back before anyone knows if his horses could run or not (nowadays farms want to have as little risk as possible).
So at 100+ mares a year, the farm would have recouped about 18,000,000 of their money back before anyone knows if his horses could run or not (nowadays farms want to have as little risk as possible).
He will be the highest producing horse I have seen in a long time.
IF Orb were to go ahead and win the Triple Crown, I think your numbers are conservative. It has been so long since a Triple Crown winner, that the mystique of winning it will give him more credibility. In addition, since it is the Phipps/Janney family and Shug, there will be no question about the autheticity of the victories. With Claiborne Farm behind him, I think he would stand and be valued even higher than the numbers you quoted.. The only question would be his pedigree, only because Malibu Moon isn't yet a proven sire or sires.
I think the number could be light, and totally agree with you the ligitamacy of the horse due to his strong trainer/connections. But I don't see how you could set his stud fee at higher then 75K initially (off winning the Triple Crown) and the farms are so careful right now at not sticking their necks out to what they can't recoup in the first 3 years. To me for him to justify a number way above 25MM he is going have to run faster than he has, or keep it rolling through the summer in the Travers or do something in the Breeders Cup. Well see, I would love to see the horse do it. To me the Preakness is going to be the tough one.
I read somewhere Frankel got over 150 mares in his first season at 180,000 USD equivalent.
You cannot put a number on a Triple Crown winning horse. There are things you cannot put a number to with a TC winner such as: publicity, fame, satisfaction, immortality (both horse and human connections), etc.
I do admit it, that was very good response you wrote on this thread.
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