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BC , WHO wants some ?

Postby Fredo » Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:55 pm

I really enjoy the BC but I wouldnt be surprised if its gone in a few years. As you all have heard the BC basically holds the host track for ransom. Unless they change their "tactics" no one will bid for it in the near future. And to pull the petty bs they have started against the NYRA is reason to question their intentions. BC Friday aka Ladies Day is a joke. To even call 50% of those races a BC race is an insult to all of us,the professional gamblers that we are. And this year its 3 card monty time on Friday.
Take a look at the schedule. How many will show up for the Zenyatta circle jerk? 15K ?
Her races are startng to remind me of that fake HR game in Vegas that goes in a circle and you bet a 1.00 to win 3.75. Oh and btw, I'll be there @ 8 am on Sat to get our VIP reserved table to witness my boy Einstein............... (aka Big Cap Winner ) rip off Rip Van Stinkle's head in the Classic.In fact send over Mastercrackerjack too.
I'll have CNAK aka AngryMan box you in in the 2nd flight. Lets see how you do with Kieran" aka prison stripes" Fallon going airborne over the rail? I've just got back from the Mojave desert near my Alcapa ranch and I have enough snake juice for all of our horses.

One more thing use Frankie Dettori in every exotic.

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Re: BC , WHO wants some ?

Postby Lurker » Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:41 pm

Some of the well known international sites will be inserted into the rotation, then only a few Americans will participate, but it will be a World Champions day. Maybe ShaTin, Dubai, and one of them English or French joints.

It'll be perfect for TVG cuz they can show them on tape delay.
And remember...Things work out best when you make the best of the way things work out.
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Re: BC , WHO wants some ?

Postby Gotnosed » Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:18 am

Bc Friday is a class-war joke.........Not only are the majority of the races sub world class,they are held on FRIDAY,thus ,discounting MILLIONS of working class fans who cant take off work.This is utter BS. ALL grade 1 s in america are run on WEEKENDS or holidays,save the one or two that pop up at saratoga or del Mar(at least in vacation season).If you are a valued customer all year,the BC SCREWS you by running the ladies classic on a work day........the only thing morre insane would be to run our world series on fake synthetics 2 years in a row.Er,wait,that is happening....ugh!
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Re: BC , WHO wants some ?

Postby LuckyDuck » Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:34 am

I'm thinking the KY Oaks is run on a weekday and they always get at least 17k on-track. :roll:

Most serious fans have a BS story saved up for taking BC Friday off
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Re: BC , WHO wants some ?

Postby Mitch21 » Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:50 am

Gotnosed wrote:Bc Friday is a class-war joke.........Not only are the majority of the races sub world class,they are held on FRIDAY,thus ,discounting MILLIONS of working class fans who cant take off work.This is utter BS. ALL grade 1 s in america are run on WEEKENDS or holidays,save the one or two that pop up at saratoga or del Mar(at least in vacation season).If you are a valued customer all year,the BC SCREWS you by running the ladies classic on a work day........the only thing morre insane would be to run our world series on fake synthetics 2 years in a row.Er,wait,that is happening....ugh!



That BC two years back on the East Coast at Monmouth was tremendous wasn't it?
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Re: BC , WHO wants some ?

Postby LuckyDuck » Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:21 pm

Fredo wrote:I really enjoy the BC but I wouldnt be surprised if its gone in a few years. As you all have heard the BC basically holds the host track for ransom. Unless they change their "tactics" no one will bid for it in the near future. And to pull the petty bs they have started against the NYRA is reason to question their intentions. BC Friday aka Ladies Day is a joke. To even call 50% of those races a BC race is an insult to all of us,the professional gamblers that we are. And this year its 3 card monty time on Friday.
Take a look at the schedule. How many will show up for the Zenyatta circle jerk? 15K ?
Her races are startng to remind me of that fake HR game in Vegas that goes in a circle and you bet a 1.00 to win 3.75. Oh and btw, I'll be there @ 8 am on Sat to get our VIP reserved table to witness my boy Einstein............... (aka Big Cap Winner ) rip off Rip Van Stinkle's head in the Classic.In fact send over Mastercrackerjack too.
I'll have CNAK aka AngryMan box you in in the 2nd flight. Lets see how you do with Kieran" aka prison stripes" Fallon going airborne over the rail? I've just got back from the Mojave desert near my Alcapa ranch and I have enough snake juice for all of our horses.

One more thing use Frankie Dettori in every exotic.

With Much Love,


http://www.insidesocal.com/horseracing/ ... ers-c.html


Maybe Fredo was right



This could be final Breeders' Cup as we now know it
By Art Wilson on October 19, 2009 7:00 AM | Permalink | ShareThis
In my opinion, racing fans can expect two and maybe three changes to the current Breeders' Cup format after this year's 26th running on Nov. 6-7 during Santa Anita's Oak Tree meet.

* This will be the final Breeders' Cup run over a synthetic race track. The backlash Breeders' Cup officials have felt over holding the event at Santa Anita and its synthetic Pro-Ride surface for an unprecedented second consecutive year -- not to mention the number of horsemen who continue to jump off the artificial surface bandwagon by the day -- are too strong for event organizers to ignore.

* This will also be the final year where the Breeders' Cup will include 14 races. In these tough economic times when horse racing numbers -- both in attendance and betting handle -- are in decline, officials just can't afford to continue to offer as many races. Look for the less-popular races like the Dirt Mile and Juvenile Turf and/or Juvenile Fillies Turf to perhaps fall by the wayside. The Marathon may survive only because it has a purse of only $500,000.

* This could also be the final year of the two-day format, although this is more up in the air than the two aforementioned items.

I had an interview with Breeders' Cup president Greg Avioli recently and he said a decision on the two-day setup, the number of races and any potential purse cuts will be coming soon.

"What we've always said internally and publicly is that we're going to evaluate the two-day format and the 14-race program card following this year," Avioli said. "This will be the third year that we've had a two-day format and the second year that we will have had 14 championship races. Some of the criteria that we're going to use in evaluating it are going to be the graded stakes races, the graded quality, it's going to be the level of participation that we have in these races from the top horses in the world.

"Each race in the world gets a ranking from the International Federation of Horse Racing Authority, and last year for example the Classic was the No. 1 race in the entire world. And we had a handful of other races in the top 10 in the world. So we want to make sure the races that we're putting on are quality races with quality fields. We're also going to take a look at the total amount of wagering that we receive on these races because that's relevant to our bottom line.

"Last year was the first time we had a two-day format with a full Breeders' Cup card on Friday and I don't think this gets noted enough, but we set a North American record of over fifty million dollars for the most money ever wagered on a weekday in North America on horse racing. So from our one-year experience, the two-day format and the 14-race card worked very well, but we're going to take a wait-and-see attitude and see how it goes this year and then make any changes for next year that need to be made following that evaluation.

"We had approximately 30,000 people in New Jersey at Monmouth (Park) for the first Breeders' Cup Friday (2007), and that was in an absolute torrential downpour. What we have to constantly remind people is that this is something new. This is only the second year of this and if this is going to succeed, which I believe it will, it's going to take three, five, 10 years for it to reach its full potential."

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Re: BC , WHO wants some ?

Postby JDinSD77 » Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:23 pm

I think this year will be a tremendous weekend of racing. I argue that this year's edition will feature as many stars of racing that any year has going for it. Sure, some big horses are skipping, or being retired, or what have you. Every year some horses miss for some reason or another. Every race on both days looks wide open with many, many excellent Euro horses(probably much more than any other year) will make great showings AND provide tremendous bets either for or against. Weather hopefully will be ideal, and in the end analysis, this year's event of two super days of racing will be highly anticipated by MOST horse racing fans, both casual and S.G.'s(sick gambler's like myself).
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Re: BC , WHO wants some ?

Postby Masterp » Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:58 pm

LuckyDuck wrote:I'm thinking the KY Oaks is run on a weekday and they always get at least 17k on-track. :roll:

Most serious fans have a BS story saved up for taking BC Friday off


This year there was around 111,000 on track for Oaks day, but who's counting. However, L'ville basically treats the day as a holiday so that makes sense. I don't think they will make Ladies Day a holiday around town next year if they keep the two day format. Needs to go back to one day in my opinion.

disclaimer...I have to work on Nov. 6th...and can't take that day off.
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Re: BC , WHO wants some ?

Postby Sluggo4171 » Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:32 pm

excellent post fredo
I would be a vegetarian if BACON grew on trees
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Re: BC , WHO wants some ?

Postby Fredo » Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:35 am

So last year no .10 supers but .50 supers ? Go figure..anyone know what the wagering menu is this year ?
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