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Pick 8/4/6 players fleeced at SA

Postby Southieboy » Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:52 am

I'm suprised this hasn't been brought up yet.

Yesterday, Race 6 at Santa Anita, the #9 Indian Classic was announced as a FIRST TIME GELDING in the paddock just prior to the post parade for the race. Since this was announced AFTER the Pick Eight, Pick Six (with a carryover) and the late Pick Four, players were unable to use the change to their advantage.

Of course, the horse won. Considering the connections of the horse, it looks like they pulled one over.
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Re: Pick 8/4/6 players fleeced at SA

Postby Pathagan » Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:17 am

Good points raised there, SB.

Of course, the stewards will issue the token fine for the connections (chump change compared to what they collected at the windows).

Business as loveing usual in Southern California.
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Re: Pick 8/4/6 players fleeced at SA

Postby Elhelmete » Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:32 am

Wasn't that the second first time gelding that won that day?
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Re: Pick 8/4/6 players fleeced at SA

Postby Alaidekman » Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:03 pm

I'm wondering if it was the paddock judge (or whatever the guy who checks equipment in paddock is called) who realized the horse was a gelding, and that is why announcment was made 10 minutes before post. If it was noticed in the receiving barn, you would think announcment would have been made earlier.In short interview with Palma before the race, Chritina said something like first time gelding has been training well, but didn't push him on the issue of why it wasn't noted at time of entries.

In trainer's slim defense, if horse was gelded several months ago, could possibly be just an oversight if he didn't remember that first start was not as a gelding. Overall, however, with the late money pouring in, it looks like something Escalante would have been proud of.

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Re: Pick 8/4/6 players fleeced at SA

Postby Claimboxx » Sat Mar 02, 2013 6:40 pm

Courtesy of Handicappers Report www.hreport.com
9354 - 6TH: 6f FT 21.73 44.86 57.25 1:09.98 V +11 AR= 96 PR=87 s 3-sMMAIDENC
A decent second in his debut last June, INDIAN CLASSIC, working well up to his comeback for Palma, was announced as a FIRST TIME GELDING as the horses for race five were heading for the gate, and proved best late as the favorite under E. Flores. The son of Cindago had speed five-deep then settled in midpack outside within range down the backside, gained around the far turn, four-wide into the lane, bid midstretch, took command deep stretch, prevailed to the wire. Low rating and look for Palma to get fined for failure to report the winner as a gelding. Heavily bet firster FOLLINI prompted inside early then moved up to duel near the half-mile pole, inched away leaving the backside, clear around the far turn, tackled again leaving that bend, hung tough inside through the drive, missed. BOB CONSULTATION dueled early then stalked the pace midway down the backside, re-bid leaving the far turn, was fanned out a bit into the stretch, still there between horses midstretch, failed to switch leads while tiring the final furlong. SLRD based firster FEATHERS IN THE SKY was close early then was bumped in tight between horses and appeared to clip heels to nearly go down and lose position, dropped well back leaving the backside and around the far turn, three-wide into the lane, passed horses to midstretch, no rally the final furlong. He obviously would have been much closer without the early mishap and can improve. GADZOOKS broke in and hit the gate to be off slowly, trailed badly the opening quarter, far back at the rear into the lane, passed horses in the drive. MARINI MARTINI had speed four-deep between horses then stalked three-wide, dropped back around the far turn, well beaten. WILD TONY had speed between horses then stalked two-deep down the backside, outrun leaving the far turn, badly beaten. Mulhall firster SUPER DICE was sent to show speed between horses, stalked down the backside, retreated hastily around the far turn, tired to last. Maybe he can make the lead going long vs. bottom level maiden claimers.
1. INDIAN CLASSIC 87 s (Bon) (G) 5. GADZOOKS 52 s
2. FOLLINI 86 s 6. MARINI MARTINI 32 s
3. BOB CONSULTATION 73 s 7. WILD TONY 30 s
4. FEATHERS INTHE SKY 63 s (+) 8. SUPER DICE 29 s
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Re: Pick 8/4/6 players fleeced at SA

Postby Andymays » Sat Mar 02, 2013 7:48 pm

If they're not announced by 30 minutes to post for the first race of the day then you have to scratch them.
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Re: Pick 8/4/6 players fleeced at SA

Postby Hollywoodmike » Sat Mar 02, 2013 7:58 pm

Andymays wrote:If they're not announced by 30 minutes to post for the first race of the day then you have to scratch them.

Best case scenario is to scratch him. Second best is to allow him to run for purse money only. Betting public needs and deserves
to be protected in some way.
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Re: Pick 8/4/6 players fleeced at SA

Postby Vtexposfan » Sat Mar 02, 2013 8:49 pm

Hollywoodmike wrote: Second best is to allow him to run for purse money only.


Bingo bango. The numbskulls at NYRA got this through their heads (at least with part of entry scratches), what's stopping CA from getting on the stick?
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Re: Pick 8/4/6 players fleeced at SA

Postby Southieboy » Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:36 am

Jay Privman @DRFPrivman
SA stewards fined trainer Hector Palma $1,000 for failing to report gelding of Indian Classic before winning race on 3-1. Approve
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