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Re: Nice hit?? reason #1,664 why are game is going down the tube

Postby Hollywoodmike » Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:57 pm

I agree with you Jimi that Beyers are totally useless. Would buy a huge bottle of liquid paper or white out from
and cover them up if it wasn't so time consuming. ;)
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Re: Nice hit?? reason #1,664 why are game is going down the tube

Postby Claimboxx » Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:38 pm

There are a lot of perception issues in horse racing that I agree irk the public... Big bets on the eventual winner showing up as the race is being run, performance enhancing drugs, etc..

This is something that has gone on forever and is perfectly acceptable. A trainer slowed down and hid a well meant first timers works, bet his money and won...

If he had reported this horse under a different name, or did something underhanded, then that is totally unacceptable. Slowing down the works on a horse he knew can run, spotting him for less than he is worth and gambling on him, I have no problem with that at all. Kudos go to the trainer that put his money up and scored by being clever.
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Re: Nice hit?? reason #1,664 why are game is going down the tube

Postby Mitch21 » Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:02 pm

Claimboxx wrote:There are a lot of perception issues in horse racing that I agree irk the public... Big bets on the eventual winner showing up as the race is being run, performance enhancing drugs, etc..

This is something that has gone on forever and is perfectly acceptable. A trainer slowed down and hid a well meant first timers works, bet his money and won...

If he had reported this horse under a different name, or did something underhanded, then that is totally unacceptable. Slowing down the works on a horse he knew can run, spotting him for less than he is worth and gambling on him, I have no problem with that at all. Kudos go to the trainer that put his money up and scored by being clever.


Sharp post. This is horse racing. Everybody I know in the horse racing game is in it to make a score gambling on their horse. Every single one of them. Congrats to Peter Miller.
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Re: Nice hit?? reason #1,664 why are game is going down the tube

Postby Hollywoodmike » Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:04 pm

Pete did the same thing when he was training at San Luis Rey Downs. Slow maintenance works there and pops at
first asking when shipped to major track.
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Re: Nice hit?? reason #1,664 why are game is going down the tube

Postby Kermit » Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:13 pm

Hollywoodmike wrote:Pete did the same thing when he was training at San Luis Rey Downs. Slow maintenance works there and pops at
first asking when shipped to major track.


San Luis Rey was so deep they were mostly slow works - but beneficial.
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Re: Nice hit?? reason #1,664 why are game is going down the tube

Postby Reallyquiet » Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:28 am

You are so incredibly naive.

Please explain how the trainer is "stealing". You could have bet on his horse and shared in this theft.

Handicappers who make real bets on the horses keep records of trainers and their patterns. Trainers trying to disguise their horse's ability has been going on since the very first horse race. I find that it enhances the game and doesn't hurt it.[/quote]


I am Naive?LOLOLOL.......The trainer hiding workouts with a horse who wasnt deemed good enough for special weight,scored big time with an unknown STEALING evryone's money who bet in the process. Was this illegal?No,its been done for years.Never said it was illegal.
All Im saying,for the future of the game,is for first time starters in maiden-claiming ranks either run for purse money only,or re-institute training races like they had for decades in states like Louisiana.Being able to see if the horse has at least 4 legs would be nice.
Ag,any trainer should be entitled to the PURSE of a race,but not entitled to pilfer the pools.For those who say its our job to decide who's 1sters are good....LOLOLOLOLOLOL.

No one is required to invest in the stock market,yet INSIDER TRADING is regulated as best as it could possibly be.
But you keep kidding yourself as to who the naive one is.Or the gullible sacrificial lambs are. But this is how its always been done.......
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Re: Nice hit?? reason #1,664 why are game is going down the tube

Postby Reallyquiet » Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:33 am

More-

If Im the CFO of Ford and know that theres going to be a recall on all my trucks costing the Comp. billions of dollars,I short sell the stock and make millions off of unbeknownst others who arent privy to this information.Why not?
Why not? Because if this went on,PEOPLE WOULD LOSE ALL FAITH IN THE MARKETS AND NEVER INVEST AGAIN. But when the same exact thing happens in the horse-wagering arena, people don't care one bit? Suckers..............
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Re: Nice hit?? reason #1,664 why are game is going down the tube

Postby Kermit » Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:46 am

Reallyquiet wrote:More-

If Im the CFO of Ford and know that theres going to be a recall on all my trucks costing the Comp. billions of dollars,I short sell the stock and make millions off of unbeknownst others who arent privy to this information.Why not?
Why not? Because if this went on,PEOPLE WOULD LOSE ALL FAITH IN THE MARKETS AND NEVER INVEST AGAIN. But when the same exact thing happens in the horse-wagering arena, people don't care one bit? Suckers..............


All of Congress and the President were allowed insider information trading until a few months ago when they passed a law against it. Sen Harry Reid is a multi-millionaire and the ONLY jobs he has ever held were public sector jobs, whose salaries were listed for all to see.
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