Good horses, big drops

[Kermit]

We discussed this with Baffert's horse Tweebster, in that case saying it was wrong and bad. That kind of training move is used and does work at times.

In today's 7th, #3 Luckarack:
Ran 4th in the Gr 1 Malibu Stakes in Dec. 2011
Ted West claimed him 2 races later for $62,500
Horse went downhill steadily and ended up at Fairplex for Clm $12,500, which he won
He ran 6 days later and won for $20,000
He won for $32,000 a month later
Ran on Dec 16 2012 at today's conditions (Alw/Opt claiming, Clm $40K, purse $58K) and just missed

Could win this today, so dropping way down isn't always a bad thing, as Baffert tried to say. But sometimes it is - our burden to determine which.
I wish the horse well and bravo to Ted West for hanging on and getting the horse back to good racing.

[Andyc]

We discussed this with Baffert's horse Tweebster, in that case saying it was wrong and bad. That kind of training move is used and does work at times.

In today's 7th, #3 Luckarack:
Ran 4th in the Gr 1 Malibu Stakes in Dec. 2011
Ted West claimed him 2 races later for $62,500
Horse went downhill steadily and ended up at Fairplex for Clm $12,500, which he won
He ran 6 days later and won for $20,000
He won for $32,000 a month later
Ran on Dec 16 2012 at today's conditions (Alw/Opt claiming, Clm $40K, purse $58K) and just missed

Could win this today, so dropping way down isn't always a bad thing, as Baffert tried to say. But sometimes it is - our burden to determine which.
I wish the horse well and bravo to Ted West for hanging on and getting the horse back to good racing.

It seems to me that you aren't describing a big dropper but a horse that managed to regain form and win on the way UP.

Horses that are very competitive at higher levels dropping down are probably the worst bets in the game. The bigger the drop the worse the bet.

[Kermit]

That's what ended up happening but he did run 4th in a Gr 1 and got claimed at $62500 originally. The drop to 12500 by the folks who got him for 62500 seemed like the classic 'dump the horse' move. Glad it worked out so far.

[Crazykid]

i almost always play the horse with the most class. sometimes they are to sore to win, but many times they win on 3 legs anyhow.

[Stefan]

Hard luck if you played him...I hope he's ok!

[Kermit]

Hard luck if you played him...I hope he's ok!

Stews said it was his own fault, fell on his nose. A single in my P6.

[Clockerbob]

h Baffert's horse Tweebster being put down made money for the Latimes and the pressbox.

'The Losing End"

As a reward for thirty consecutive years of turf writing that never mentioned enhancement drugs; Joe was selected by the tribe to be paid to write ‘ghost’ articles. Those articles were sent to local newspapers with a check. That check covered a racetracks’ quarterly advertising expenditure. A few paragraphs were scrambled by a local scribe who was then given the byline. To protect that scribe credited with the byline, the ‘ghosted’ article would not have an online public comments forum nor would any letters to the editor reach the printed edition. It was a deadheaded article. This way a local paper avoided having to staff a turf writer or list a ‘ghosted’ article as a racetrack advertisement.





Joe’s best ‘ghosted’ article made the front page of several Sunday sports sections with photos. It centered on a movie starlet who was pictured at a crowded table in the track kitchen with her white poodle, the vet with twitching fingers and a racing commissioner who owned several horses that left the course mangled. Actresses had seen Ruffian being eased. Jacinto, her jockey, jumped off and grabbed Ruffian's reins and unhinged her saddle while waiting for help and the horse ambulance. In a recent snap and plunge breakdown the jockey was a projectile and the horse died with his saddle on. She maintained the cause was injected numbness.



In presenting the industries overview of death from racing, the vet quoted a line from ‘Vinnie’ a made mob gun from a famous scene in the movie Goodfellas.

Jimmie( Robert Deniro) walks outside a Jersie diner to a phone booth to call and congratulate his friend Tommie (Joe Pesci) whose being ‘made’ ceremony should have just finished. However, Vinnie answers the phone not Tommie. Jimmie says "What Happened?" Vinnie replys "He's gone and we couldn't do nothing about it."
The article was scratched by the editor.






'Front Page’ Joe had a Stakes race and a Writer's award named in his honor for never typing a single word to help cushion the hundred thoroughbred racers he saw shattered an injected joint, crash, die and toss a jockey. For that, the tribe always pasted his articles on the front page. When a thoroughbred racer suffered a catastrophic breakdown, his stiff body with a mutated limb was placed next to the love pile outside his barn. The next afternoon, the bulldozer clearing the piles picked up the stiff. Joe walked by a stiff eating shortbread off a napkin. The future of racing looked fragile, but the income and comps for turf writers who ignored injected death skyrocketed. That is how Joe decided to roll.



That matrix held until PETA obtained and released a necropsy report to the public in 2012. Turf writers who enjoyed a pleasant livelihood for never requesting a necropsy report for publication were outed by Betty White. Also in 2012, Joe Drape wrote "Big Purses, Sore Horses, and Death" and “Mangled Horses, Maimed Jockeys” in which he posted incident rates by trainer, track and state. In a third article about that year’s Kentucky Derby winner, "I'll Have Another Had History of Ailments, Records Show.” Drape sourced I'll Have Another's pre-Belmont veterinary record. Still tribe writers seated at the comp table were fed well for not investigating the seller of the ‘clear’ or compiling an incident report at their track by vet, trainer, pre-existing condition, pre-race meds sourcing veterinary records of the mangled dead.

[MaryS]

Are you quoting yourself, CB?

[Stefan]

Hard luck if you played him...I hope he's ok!

Stews said it was his own fault, fell on his nose. A single in my P6.

Ouch!

[Crazykid]

thank goodness pita didnt stop those sore horses like black tie affair and easy goer from racing, both were so sore between races they couldnt even walk.
they won almost all of thier money that way