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Re: Santa Anita opens with a gift for pick-six bettors

Postby Claimboxx » Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:38 pm

Igeteven wrote:AAron, You have to be nuts , you come to my posts and threads, if will be a cold day in hell if I ever post on yours, you are a stoker and real odd ball. You show high intelligence then stupidity,

Go take you medication and get back to me.

One big question, are you bi polor. or under a Dr care. ?



Allow me to address each statement you posted individually...
Your posts??? This thread was started by Andy, and once again it is for EVERYONE WILLING TO RESPOND, this is NOT Lester's Forum...
Please NEVER respond to my posts, please I implore you, DO NOT
You judging anyone on intelligence and stupidity is the funniest thing ever...You cannot spell, barely read and write, you do not even get that the joke is on YOU in most everyone's post because you are so loveing oblivious....
I am neither bi-polar or under a Dr. care...
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Re: Santa Anita opens with a gift for pick-six bettors

Postby Triple Threat » Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:53 pm

Igeteven wrote:AAron, You have to be nuts , you come to my posts and threads, if will be a cold day in hell if I ever post on yours, you are a stoker and real odd ball. You show high intelligence then stupidity,

Go take you medication and get back to me.

One big question, are you bi polor. or under a Dr care. ?


LMAO. A late candidate for post of the year!
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Re: Santa Anita opens with a gift for pick-six bettors

Postby Spiketoo » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:04 pm

Arron, are you really a gay bear?

This has to be one of the stupidest things they have done in awhile (and there are plethora of them).

Doesn't like 85%+ of the handle come off-track? It like saying FU to the majority of the bettors. If they want to increase on-track churn, how about a $10 admission offset by a $10 voucher? The potential increase in churn could cover whatever may be lost in admission fees to pay the sammie makers.

Whenever I hear of brilliant stuff like this, I always think what was their second choice that they passed on?
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Re: Santa Anita opens with a gift for pick-six bettors

Postby Claimboxx » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:10 pm

Spiketoo wrote:Arron, are you really a gay bear?

This has to be one of the stupidest things they have done in awhile (and there are plethora of them).

Doesn't like 85%+ of the handle come off-track? It like saying FU to the majority of the bettors. If they want to increase on-track churn, how about a $10 admission offset by a $10 voucher? The potential increase in churn could cover whatever may be lost in admission fees to pay the sammie makers.

Whenever I hear of brilliant stuff like this, I always think what was their second choice that they passed on?




I'll overlook the first statement..
The racetrack has huge overhead, to stay in business they need a customer base to pay for admission, programs, food and drink, etc.. What better way than to get people to come to a venue than to incentivize them??? Most gamblers are trying to make a score, they aren't driving all the way to the races for a $10 voucher to churn, they are trying to score a big hit, maximize being right... If you take the bet that can yield the biggest payoff, and add 20% for being on-track, isn't that a huge incentive??? I think it is a great idea, if you want to try and keep people showing up to the live product.
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Re: Santa Anita opens with a gift for pick-six bettors

Postby Spiketoo » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:22 pm

From Mr Free:

'It could bring the wager storming back to popularity.' Rather myopic to think that this will boost the crowd of about 3,850 on a cold February Thursday.

Most bettors don't want to pay to gamble. Sure there's 'necessary' overhead but 'free' admission will get the $2 bettor through the turnstiles. This wont matter one iota to the regular P6 bettor.
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Re: Santa Anita opens with a gift for pick-six bettors

Postby Kermit » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:23 pm

Igeteven wrote:Of all the member here, I doubt that less then 10 percent play the pick 6.


Of all the bets, the pick 4 or the pick 5 is so much better for the average player due to the high costs of hitting a big one.


All right member, I calling you out, how many here play the pick 6

me Personally I know of only 3 members that play it.


Well members, do you play it or not.?

Here are the members, Joel, DX and Andymays,
Again, this bet caters to a special player.


I play it when I have 3 singles in the P6 sequence, and I do just that - single them.
If you mean do I get on a $30,000 ticket every big carryover, then no.
If you handicapp every race carefully, you shouldn't be too put-out to do a small ticket. 5/6 will get you your money back.
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Re: Santa Anita opens with a gift for pick-six bettors

Postby Igeteven » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:40 pm

In 30 years of horse racing, RWWUPL played everyday, I am telling the truth on this, he went everday to the race track, he hit a total of 18 Pick 6's his highest paid 26 thousand.

He never exceeded a 24 dollar bet.


To hit the monsters, one must bet hard and play hard to win the top money, believe me, I am not against the pick 6 players, God Bless them, they're a special breed and prepared to take huge loses.

Me, I have done well with the pick 4 and the pick 5, on a average cost of 85.00 per ticket, sometimes 125 dollars, if you all remember I hit a huge pick 4 out of Woodbine and had to split the ticket. Over 7 G's however, I played a 750 dollar ticket and half the cost of the ticket I paid for. Never again, will I ever put up that amount of money on a ticket.


As I said, good luck to the Pick 6 players and may you hit the big one,

I don't look for lady luck, I create my own, I would rather be a constant winner then take huge loses again and again until I hit, then I am back in the same boat after I lose it all and most do.

Again good luck to the pick 6 players.
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Re: Santa Anita opens with a gift for pick-six bettors

Postby Andyc » Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:40 pm

Claimboxx wrote:The racetrack has huge overhead, to stay in business they need a customer base to pay for admission, programs, food and drink, etc.. What better way than to get people to come to a venue than to incentivize them??? Most gamblers are trying to make a score, they aren't driving all the way to the races for a $10 voucher to churn, they are trying to score a big hit, maximize being right... If you take the bet that can yield the biggest payoff, and add 20% for being on-track, isn't that a huge incentive??? I think it is a great idea, if you want to try and keep people showing up to the live product.


Paying a P-6 bonus won't help pay the overhead. I think that if you paid a bonus on all bets except the P-6 you would draw far more fans. The players that the P-6 bonus will appeal to are really a small group.

From the tracks perspective they face minimal financial exposure with maximum initial publicity.
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Re: Santa Anita opens with a gift for pick-six bettors

Postby Claimboxx » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:00 pm

Andyc wrote:
Claimboxx wrote:The racetrack has huge overhead, to stay in business they need a customer base to pay for admission, programs, food and drink, etc.. What better way than to get people to come to a venue than to incentivize them??? Most gamblers are trying to make a score, they aren't driving all the way to the races for a $10 voucher to churn, they are trying to score a big hit, maximize being right... If you take the bet that can yield the biggest payoff, and add 20% for being on-track, isn't that a huge incentive??? I think it is a great idea, if you want to try and keep people showing up to the live product.


Paying a P-6 bonus won't help pay the overhead. I think that if you paid a bonus on all bets except the P-6 you would draw far more fans. The players that the P-6 bonus will appeal to are really a small group.

From the tracks perspective they face minimal financial exposure with maximum initial publicity.



I beg to differ...The Pick Six is the bet with the most possible life changing impact...Add 20% to that and you are giving the patron a chance to really hit one out of the park... We need the publicity of big payouts to bring people in...
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Re: Santa Anita opens with a gift for pick-six bettors

Postby Goofonroof » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:11 pm

Lester. I think you are way off base when you say only a very small percentage of players play the pick six. I think almost everyone does at some point and carryovers are a certain incentive.

As for the bonus on winning tickets. IMO it's a HUGE deal that will be a rousing success.

As a former pick 6 player I'll say it's like no other wager. Whenever we go to the window to play any type of wager we have an immediate expectation of winning. Good handicappers although realistic expect to hit every bet they make. Except for the pick 6.

I knew when playing that wager in all likelihood I would lose way way more days than I won. As Boxx correctly pointed out, this is a wager that is designed to make a huge score. A hit that if cashed let's say once in 25 times the payout will eclipse in one fell swoop all the loses for the other 24 torn up tickets.

If I know when that hit does come I will receive a 20% greater payoff it's a move than come hell or high water I MUST make. Anything else would simply be mathematically unsound.

Players that get it. Great ones do. Will for a fact whenever logistically possible make these plays on track. Rare is an idea a total win-win for all concerned. This one is.

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