[WAS] Gary Stevens Dashes Comeback Speculation

[MaryS]

Wish I was around during the 80's

Me too.

Vince P

Just because you don't remember the '80s, doesn't mean you weren't here.

[Pooch]

Bill Shoemaker in 1986 at age 54 won the Kentucky Derby on Ferdinand. A few people told me it was a masterpiece ride by him.

1986 was the 1st KY Derby I attended. I wagered on Snow Chief.

Chart:
http://static.kentuckyderby.com/sites/k ... s/1986.pdf

Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuMp9AjKqf0

Is this the Derby where The Shoe beat Pat Day to the hole? One of those woulda coulda shoulda for Rampage.

[Tvghrtvfan]

That was great decision what the Shoe did after watching it last night. A great risk taker.

[Kermit]

Bill Shoemaker in 1986 at age 54 won the Kentucky Derby on Ferdinand. A few people told me it was a masterpiece ride by him.

1986 was the 1st KY Derby I attended. I wagered on Snow Chief.

That was the first Derby I ever bet on (no wagering in Texas then), we went to Evangeline Downs. I had $5 ATB on #6 Broad Brush, he got 3rd. At 60-1, I bet $3 win on Groovy, finished DFL, but I knew he would be on the lead so I bet him. Hazy, but I think I bet something on Snow Cheif also.

My lady friend bet on Shoemaker, her first bet ever. The odds were even higher on Ferd in Louisiana. Man it was a long ride back to Houston.

[Crazykid]

that race changed and ruined the derby future bets in nevada. i was living at so tahoe working at a casino, my roomate was a graveyard shift
bacarrat dealer. he came home from work one morning a couple of days before the derby and told me they had some super high rollers from texas betting millions at the bacarrat table that night.
and they told the dealers/floormen that they were in tahoe to bet the derby and they had ferdinand. millions were spread out all over the state on the horse in the futures.
the state of nevada and all the casinos took the worst loss in the history of nevada on that race. from 1987 forth they never gave those big future odds again.
this year the longest shot in the 2013 futures was less than 500to1, in those days you could get 10,000 to 1 early on in the futures on hundreds of horses, now the casinos wont gamble.
if you walk into a casino today and want to make a bet on an oklahoma bred maiden who has been getting beat for a $3,200 tag they wont give you 500to1 and that started with ferdinand

[Joel]

that race changed and ruined the derby future bets in nevada. i was living at so tahoe working at a casino, my roomate was a graveyard shift
bacarrat dealer. he came home from work one morning a couple of days before the derby and told me they had some super high rollers from texas betting millions at the bacarrat table that night.
and they told the dealers/floormen that they were in tahoe to bet the derby and they had ferdinand. millions were spread out all over the state on the horse in the futures.
the state of nevada and all the casinos took the worst loss in the history of nevada on that race. from 1987 forth they never gave those big future odds again.
this year the longest shot in the 2013 futures was less than 500to1, in those days you could get 10,000 to 1 early on in the futures on hundreds of horses, now the casinos wont gamble.
if you walk into a casino today and want to make a bet on an oklahoma bred maiden who has been getting beat for a $3,200 tag they wont give you 500to1 and that started with ferdinand

Cool story, bro.

I guess Agua Caliente in TJ didn't get that memo.

The following year they got killed for millions when a bettor made a $50,000 Future bet on Winning Colors at humongous odds..

While Las Vegas receives tons of press when a sportsbook takes a $1 million bet on the Super Bowl, not many people know about the time Caliente had to pay out seven figures to a Mexican National who cashed in on a $50,000 futures bet on Winning Colors in the 1988 Kentucky Derby. Regardless of the big payout, de la Fuente said he would take the risk again if it came from the right bettor. "If we know the customer, he will probably get special treatment," he stated.

[Southieboy]

After retirement, (Chris) McCarron tried a turn in the front office at Santa Anita and behind the microphone as a racing analyst for TVG.

“I saw some horrendous rides,” McCarron said. “There were many times sitting alongside Todd Schrupp and those guys I thought, ‘Dammit, I wish I was out there.’ I would think that has gone through Gary’s mind more than once.”

http://www.drf.com/news/jay-hovdey-stev ... -does-best

[Crazykid]

if gary stevens gets on the right horses you will never be able to tell he ever took a break. if he doesnt he will be to old.
imo the most over rated jockey ever was jerry baily, he was always on the best horse and if they were stalkers or come from behinders he would always circle the field from the outside.
any jockey with a license would have won with those horses. had joy scott been on those same horses she would have won 5000 races and been in the hall of fame, or any other jockey you can name no matter how bad they were.

[Tvghrtvfan]

article:

http://www.drf.com/news/santa-anita-ste ... rk-out-way

“I’ve had messages on Twitter,” he said. “I had 42 texts. I thought there would be more negativity, but I’m ready for that.”

He said he recalls a day in the 1980s when he was riding with the legendary Bill Shoemaker, who was booed by the crowd after losing aboard a favorite.

“That’s when you know you’ve made it, when they boo you,” Shoemaker told Stevens.

[Tvghrtvfan]

Chris McCarron, age 57, is a retired Hall of Fame jockey who runs the North American Racing Academy in Lexington, Ky. By McCarron’s count, the 19 graduates of his program currently competing in North America have won more than 1,700 races.