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Re: BOTH THE MATRIARCH and HOLLYWOOD DERBY

Postby Nittz » Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:23 pm

Southieboy wrote:I wonder how much longer before Bejarano is reduced to the 2nd or 3rd call for Baffert behind Talamo and Garcia or outright gone from the barn?



Why???
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Re: BOTH THE MATRIARCH and HOLLYWOOD DERBY

Postby Hollywoodmike » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:08 pm

Southieboy wrote:I wonder how much longer before Bejarano is reduced to the 2nd or 3rd call for Baffert behind Talamo and Garcia or outright gone from the barn?

If Mike Smith wins with Executiveprivilege and Game on Dude in their next respective races, RB will never ever be back
on them.
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Re: BOTH THE MATRIARCH and HOLLYWOOD DERBY

Postby Hollywoodmike » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:11 pm

I still can't believe the ride Bejarano gave Animal Kingdom in the BC Turf Mile. Almost went down on first turn and
waited and waited turning into the stretch while Wise Dan got first run on him. I know that Irwin and Motion won't
be calling on him for his next race in the Gulfstream Handicap.
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Re: BOTH THE MATRIARCH and HOLLYWOOD DERBY

Postby Tvghrtvfan » Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:06 pm

I wonder why people hate Rafael Bejarano??? Nothing wrong with his style he puts in great rides. Especially that Intercontinetal ride in that 2005 BC FM Turf. So delusional that people are discounting his credability.
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Re: BOTH THE MATRIARCH and HOLLYWOOD DERBY

Postby Hollywoodmike » Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:21 pm

Tvghrtvfan wrote:I wonder why people hate Rafael Bejarano??? Nothing wrong with his style he puts in great rides. Especially that Intercontinetal ride in that 2005 BC FM Turf. So delusional that people are discounting his credability.

Wow going back 7 years ago to prove my point. He comes up empty in big races. What did he win besides the Haskell
this year? Nothing.
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Re: BOTH THE MATRIARCH and HOLLYWOOD DERBY

Postby Tvghrtvfan » Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:29 pm

Did you forget Ginger Punch in that 2007 Breeders Cup Distaff and Blind Luck in the 2010 Kentucky Oaks. Those are significant races.
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Re: BOTH THE MATRIARCH and HOLLYWOOD DERBY

Postby Nittz » Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:00 am

Tvghrtvfan wrote:I wonder why people hate Rafael Bejarano??? Nothing wrong with his style he puts in great rides. Especially that Intercontinetal ride in that 2005 BC FM Turf. So delusional that people are discounting his credability.



I don't get it either. So in essence what people are saying is for every race that a horse is closing at the end is the jockeys' fault for not being up closer. Lets see isn't that every race ran in horse racing????

If this is people's believe about Rafael- what does that say about the jockey colony in SO cal where he dominates??

Bob Baffert has always blamed riders. He has butchered every jockey who has ever ridden for him. I guess he didn't learn from this last karma episode he had with his health. Executiveprivlege was a beautiful ride, no his fault except maybe for the trainer who can't get the horse to run straight in the lane. Game On Dude even if he broke like a rocket wasn't going to beat those horses. So Game on Dude breaks slow 3-4 horse are right on front of him and Rafael is supposed to run over 4 horse to get to the lead.LOL. Power Broker get fanned wide by other horses on the first turn.

I would hate to see Baffert have his full stable back east, he would be 10% lower in wins and their wouldn't be any jocks left in the colony. He blames everyone but himself.
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Re: BOTH THE MATRIARCH and HOLLYWOOD DERBY

Postby LARHAGE » Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:58 am

He blamed Gomez for Lucky drawing the #1 hole in the Derby, like he could control 19 horses coming in on him and replaced him with a complete mediocrity, I loved seeing Blame piss all over Baffert and Lucky in the Classic. Baffert always blames the jockeys, he's an a-hole and I loved the fact he ate crap in the Breeders Cup, couldn't happen to a nicer guy, as for jockeys, they're only as good as the horses they get, the truly good jockies are those who have the ability to be cool under pressure, in the big stakes races. I think Bejarano is a good jock like a lot of them are , in a stakes race though I'll take Gomez any day of the week over him, he's always in the mix.
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Re: BOTH THE MATRIARCH and HOLLYWOOD DERBY

Postby Vince P » Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:27 am

I figuratively laugh my ass off when I read about jockey thoughts in here.

One thing I can guarantee you for sure in life.

People who claim a specific jock is better than another jock have recently won on the jock they're bragging about. And people who claim this or that jock sucks, have lost because they made a dumb wager on the "jock that sucks."

And I also guarantee they'll change their mind based on future wins and losses with same jock.

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Re: BOTH THE MATRIARCH and HOLLYWOOD DERBY

Postby Claimboxx » Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:38 am

LARHAGE wrote: as for jockeys, they're only as good as the horses they get, .



FACT
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