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by Tvghrtvfan » Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:09 am
Kermit wrote:Nittz wrote:A lot easier in Ca as opposed to NY. He's 15-16% in NY. In Ca its him and Bejarano. He rode 16% with a super agent in NY at the Belmont Meet. Velazquez, Ramon, Javier, Lezcano were bouncing back and forth from Keeneland to Belmont. Alvarado came back later in the meet from injury and rode in at 21%
That's bad for his first year in New York?
At Gulfstream if he goes, his perecentage will be 18-19%
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by Nittz » Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:50 pm
Considering he has the super agent of agents
Considering the big boys were out of town quite often
Considering everyone thinks he the second coming of Acaro and Pincay
Considering he bursted into so cal and winning in the 20-25% range
ah, yeah disappointing to me
Listen, he is no Ramon believe me. Johnnie, Javier, Jose and Junior, Rafael are better in my opinion. Will his pct rise? yes- because of his agent. Listen I have no respect for this guy. His former agent believed in him and moved him to NY, he didn't get off to a great start and he dumped him. Not exactly a classy move on his part
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by Tvghrtvfan » Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:11 pm
Sure guys like Rafael, Ramon, Javier, Johnny are better than Joel but IDK about Jose or Junior though. Haven't seen him get into duels with them yet.
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by Nittz » Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:07 am
Start watchng Jose and Junior Alvarado and also Irad Oritz Jr. These guys are up and coming. Rajiv and Cornelio can still ride with anybody as well. Listen, these are all very good riders and horses they get on makes a big difference. I am just saying now with Ron Anderson of course he will win more races, how can he not. I believe Alan Garcia has as much talent as anyone as well.
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by Vince P » Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:23 am
Nittz wrote:Considering he has the super agent of agents
Considering the big boys were out of town quite often
Considering everyone thinks he the second coming of Acaro and Pincay
Considering he bursted into so cal and winning in the 20-25% range
ah, yeah disappointing to me
Listen, he is no Ramon believe me. Johnnie, Javier, Jose and Junior, Rafael are better in my opinion. Will his pct rise? yes- because of his agent. Listen I have no respect for this guy. His former agent believed in him and moved him to NY, he didn't get off to a great start and he dumped him. Not exactly a classy move on his part
Nitz, For a professional gambler who claims he makes millions gambling on the horses, you need to recheck your figures and reevaluate your jock list. What is Rosario's ROI at Belmont? You'll be quite surprised and it's certainly not the incorrect/ lousy one you posted somewhere else. And enough of this,"well he has a good agent, he should have a good record" nonsense. The reason he has a great agent is because he's one of the best jockeys riding today. It's as simple as that. Ask any trainer. Vince P
Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea. Avatar: My cuzin Isaac Murphy - a jock I'm tying to emulate in character and winning percentage - almost 47% lifetime.
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by Tvghrtvfan » Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:45 am
Nittz wrote:Start watchng Jose and Junior Alvarado and also Irad Oritz Jr. These guys are up and coming. Rajiv and Cornelio can still ride with anybody as well. Listen, these are all very good riders and horses they get on makes a big difference. I am just saying now with Ron Anderson of course he will win more races, how can he not. I believe Alan Garcia has as much talent as anyone as well.
It feels like Alan Garcia never wins really. I hardly see him too. Even though he has a super agent too. Now that Ron has Joel it may have been a little tougher for him since Joel IMO is twice the rider Alan is IMO.
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by Nittz » Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:48 pm
Vince P wrote:Nittz wrote:Considering he has the super agent of agents
Considering the big boys were out of town quite often
Considering everyone thinks he the second coming of Acaro and Pincay
Considering he bursted into so cal and winning in the 20-25% range
ah, yeah disappointing to me
Listen, he is no Ramon believe me. Johnnie, Javier, Jose and Junior, Rafael are better in my opinion. Will his pct rise? yes- because of his agent. Listen I have no respect for this guy. His former agent believed in him and moved him to NY, he didn't get off to a great start and he dumped him. Not exactly a classy move on his part
Nitz, For a professional gambler who claims he makes millions gambling on the horses, you need to recheck your figures and reevaluate your jock list. What is Rosario's ROI at Belmont? You'll be quite surprised and it's certainly not the incorrect/ lousy one you posted somewhere else. And enough of this,"well he has a good agent, he should have a good record" nonsense. The reason he has a great agent is because he's one of the best jockeys riding today. It's as simple as that. Ask any trainer. Vince P
His ROI is high because he had a 44.00 winner, other than that he was the king of the 3.00- 5.00 winners. He is very good, I have never said he wasn't- he is just not as good as people on this forum think he is, that's all
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by Tvghrtvfan » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:22 pm
Joel’s ride on Capo Bastone was bad that he has the horse blocked and went too wide coming for him. Would’ve been a factor if hadn’t been too blocked.
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by Southieboy » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:23 pm
Tvghrtvfan wrote:Joel’s ride on Capo Bastone was bad that he has the horse blocked and went too wide coming for him. Would’ve been a factor if hadn’t been too blocked.
horse bled.
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by Tvghrtvfan » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:31 pm
Southieboy wrote:Tvghrtvfan wrote:Joel’s ride on Capo Bastone was bad that he has the horse blocked and went too wide coming for him. Would’ve been a factor if hadn’t been too blocked.
horse bled.
still a bad ride he put. but mario's ride on the 2nd place finisher was bad too.
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