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list a few people in your guys' opinion. it can be from tvg, hrtv, or the inter-track commentators too
most if not all of the full time TVG on air people.
(someone had to say it.)
Heck we can ALL handicap a race. That's easy. Even for Vince.
The question I think you mean to be asking is can any of us PICK A WINNER?
In my case the answer clearly is............................................................................?????
I disagree with Southieboy. There are a few handicappers on TVG and HRTV I respect and admire.
The all important ROI is all that I'm concerned with and neither TVG nor HRTV are willing to post them, knowing they will be ridiculed.
Pat Hagan is the only guy who consistently posts them on Racing Picks on the weekend at GGF and I admire that.
well the anchors on tvg are known for being clowns but very few try not get involved in the petty non sense and sure some do have knowledge or no knowledge!! some of them when they started they were new at this and didn't really know anything about racing.
like examples are greg wolf had no knowledge of racing before coming to tvg and became a decent and fine host and handicapper here on tvg. matt carothers well knows something because he is gibson carothers' son and he himself is a pro handicapper, matt became the tv host at canterbury park, new york city otb and monmouth and well does have knowledge and loves to beat the favorite so he's one of the smart ones but he has but often hang out too much with todd schrupp with his clowneyness and he himself does clowneyness too. rich perloff he was once a tvg researcher and turned into on air talent for a while now and he was the paddock host and handicapper for fairplex park for awhile and now often does the monday and tuesdays on tvg covering the average racetracks and sometimes is put on the air for the big racetracks he's a knowledgeable handicapper who does the crap shifts and i think he should be an upgrade and knows his stuff. nick hines was once a trainer and he's okay but he makes appearances on tvg that sometimes it's hard to pay attention because he goes off and does his salute stuff and he does that alot lately. gino buccola now he's considered a tvg on-air talent god bless him i hope he gets well soon and hope he gets better and you never want to wish anybody bad luck. but i am not convinced that he knows how to handicap horses which he does the monday and tuesdays and fridays on air. Joaquin Jamie another tvg on air talent that works as the researcher i believe does the monday and tuesdays no comment.
mr.b aka bob baedeker well he's a professional southern california handicapper for a longtime now and part of the baedeker family and i think he even writes his own tipsheet at the racetracks at santa anita, del mar and hollywood park. he was one of the tvg on-air talent that got layed off and when he was full-time he was usually known as the morning person with greg and he hit some good tickets in the past and picked too many favorites but his knowledge is good. he eventually cameback to the network and now freelances for tvg. nancy ury well she's freelance and always has been for a while she used to be the stable manager at hollywood park for a longtime and did do ocassional tv work at hollywood park also, she too used to be the track analyst at oaklawn park and hawthorne before coming to tvg. she's one of the clowns on tvg who doesn't have the brains to do run downs of the horses in the field and instead reads emails or goes off in space. well she left her job at hollywood park to work for west point thoroughbreds as a Vice President of West Coast Operations which am sure that's a stressful job to have. bill seward has been coverng horse racing for alongtime now going back to the days when he was at espn and on fox sports net doing the santa anita shows. and he to also is a los angeles sports anchor for radio and television. he has been on tvg for alogtime time now but freelance though i always thought he was knowledgeable because he's been doing horse racing now for along time and knows what he's saying.
todd schrupp got involved in horse racing before came to tvg well he was tv host at canterbury park and calder and he's the chessiest host ever!!! chances are he's probably the highest paid tvg host on the network that's been there since day 1. frank lyons well the reason why he knows his stuff is because he was once a trainer who trained a breeders cup winner named desert stormer and he has been with tvg since day 1 also and he was at one point part of the major tvg broadcasts for several years before a few years ago disappeared for like the whole summer and didn't comeback until the fall. well as it turns out he freelances for tvg now and often does take vacation trips to ireland and he too is a bloodstock agent also and it was false that he got layed off according to a drf press release correction a few days after they announced the people who got layed off. simon bray was once a trainer that he seemed okay with training horses but gave it up to work for tvg full-time which he did make appearances from time to time. he's a smart handicapper and great pay attention to but lately he's been hanging out with todd schrupp too much and his clowneyness is much worse than before. christina olivares is the only tvg on-air person i really pay attention to alot with her paddock interviews are great and handicapping as well. she adds alot to the table and she really could lead the way here on tvg. but you could tell sometimes she isn't that comfortable clowneyness but she is a serious though in general and asks the right questions to trainers in the paddock at hollywood park and del mar. she's the daughter of former trainer and jockey frank olivares and that's why she has the brains of a knowledgeable horseperson and handicapper. hrtv must be hitting themselves in the head thinking what a mistake they made because before coming to tvg, she was a reporter and producer for hrtv but they didn't give her a chance and felt discouraged how they treated her. that is probably the biggest regret hrtv has to have by letting go of christina but she's now their what she's doing something that she's always wanted to do but hrtv was being chessy. michelle yu at first i thought she was known for just being julien leparoux's girlfriend but she did work on the backside she has said in the past and did make appearances for a few months as filler spots on tvg. but she kind of was gone for a little bit but then went to do computer work as a reporter for kentuckyderby.com and twinspirestv.com but then a few years ago cameback to tvg but as a freelance tvg on-site reporter before going full-time last year. she to me was a joke last year because she was giving out selections that weren't even the daily racing form related it was just in terms of how they look in the paddock and post parade which were chessy and stupid. but now with all the complaints that the tvg community had against her doing it tvg finally got her to do checkmark selections and now we can trust her now and she's getting better with her picks and analysis on the horses. but lately has been doing in-studio time covering the average racetracks and reading out emails. She has also contributed to some select nights at Los alimatos racing on the quarters hosting and reporting and she seems okay at it. donna barton brothers a former jockey who came close to winning the breeders cup back in 1995 with hennesey but retired from riding a few years later and turned into a tv host at fair grounds, churchill downs and did do on-location for the network for a bit from the tracks but stopped after that. she's usally the nbc reporter on horseback for the triple crown races and knows what she's saying i wish she had make more appearances though. only time you get to see her is during the kentucky action reporting from keeneland and turfway park. ron ellis a trainer here in so.cal was also a tv analyst for the ntra champions on fox and knows alot about handicapping horses and i wish he was on full-time but training duties is what makes him work part-time for this network. paul lo duca was a former major leauge baseball player/catcher and was a 4 time major league all star that actually he knows what he's saying about horses and he too is a horse owner as well. he's actually better than that football player tvg had on along time ago name bryan cox. i actually think paul should pursue a career on tvg full-time because he knows what he's saying and has been doing it as if he's been doing it forever. he usually does the monmouth meet and sometimes is in california too himself i wonder if he's still trying to be in a mlb team again?? tom amoss a trainer in the midwest comes on tvg during the kentucky events like donna barton brothers but he really knows what he's saying whenever he's on and he does train some nice horses in the past too and knows the game well.
mike joyce well he was a tvg researcher and eventually became a tvg on-air person but he covers the quarter horse racing action from los alimatos but he sometimes does thoroughbred racing coverage sometimes. sometimes he can be a clown and go overboard sometimes. dave weaver well he's basically known as tvg's only expert to talk about harness racing but he multitasks to quarter horse racing also and thoroughbreds too. he's a good host to talk about all 3 breeds and has been with the network since day 1 as well. les onaka needs no introudction he's a great handicapper for los alimatos and knows what he's talking about. ed burgart the track announcer at los alimatos and once was an announcer at hollywood park who makes appearances on tvg knows his stuff already and needs no introduction.
Added Tom Cassidy a guy use to be the track analyst at monmouth for a bit and they got him a deal on tvg and he's great and a well talked analyst!! I think he's a great asset to tvg!!
i like tvg's idea to have people from the racetrack come on and do track reports from the racetrack to see what's going around the track and what to expect today. like all of them are knowledgeable like darrin from the meadowlands, the woodbine people like renee kierans, dawn lupul, chad rozema, jeff bratt and jim bannon, mike hamilton from mohawk, joe withee and robert geller from emerald downs, mike curci and brad thomas from monmouth.
great people on tvg but need to cut the clowneyness and do hardcore handicapping strictly like hrtv!!!
hrtv has the people for first class knowledge of handicapping but sure they may not be good to look at on tv and have no experience on tv but they do have alot of experience of handicapping/horse racing side of things.
jon white he like has a little media guide in his mind and gives out all the pedigree and storylines that is going on around a race and he has had some jobs from television to steward to writer and like does it all. he serves as the santa anita oddsmaker as well aside from the television side from santa anita and he like knows what he's saying alot and sure he could be boring at times but sometimes i could sit through it. joanne jones the daughter of professor gordon jones, she is like one of the veteran horse racing broadcasters who is like the most knowledgeable female horse racing analyst right now maybe even ever!! used to work the paddock at hollywood park, fairplex park, gulfstream park and others and her commentary has been noticed on TVG, New York City OTB, FOX Sports Net, FOX Sports Midwest, SKY Channel in Australia and Fox Sports Net West. she knows what she's talking about and she stills continues to prove that when she ever analyzes a race and she really knows how to stratigize a race too. laffit pincay iii is son of the elder laffit who like horse racing's greatest jockey of all time and his son really knows what he's saying and before coming to hrtv he worked as a sports anchor in new york and in california before coming to hrtv. laffit is like the most important hrtv anchor on that network and really is smart at what he does and was part of the horse racing coverage of cbs sports and the breeders cup on espn when it was at monmouth. he's far superior from the other tvg hosts. jeff siegel is a longtime southern california handicapper who has also been a horse owner who won a breeders cup race and came close to winning the kentucky derby. he's been doing it over 30 years like first as a syndicated handicapper for six L.A. area newspapers including the Los Angeles Times and San Diego Union Tribune, then as co-owner with Bob Selvin and owner of Handicapper's Report, the first-of-its-kind, a very successful, innovative publication that provided speed ratings and trip notes on the Southern California racing scene, and finally as Bob's partner in National Turf. Now he's here on HRTV making the viewers money and really knows how to do it. He really has a key role here on HRTV as one of it's knowledgeable analysts around. Millie Ball brings her experience to HRTV because she was a jockey in the UK and was an exercise rider for many southern california trainers before coming to hrtv and she was used on KCBS' Saturday Sports Central for Santa Anita's stakes races for a few seasons and was used for CBS' coverage of the Virginia Derby for a few years as well. Am not a Millie Ball fan at all because I don't think she's not at the level where I mentioned the people before her. Scott Hazelton he's the son of veteran Chicago trainer Richard Hazelton and my oh my Scott is a terrible analyst on HRTV. He messes up so much it's not even funny!! I can't believe that HRTV uses him alot and doesn't wake up and smell the coffee. Like I could name one mistake he made and that was when he interviewed Roby Albarado at Santa Anita a few years back when he was here for the big cap and he said that youre gonna be riding einstein in the big cap but roby said no am not riding him. That's the day where I figured if he cares about doing a good job or not on HRTV and he doesn't. His mistakes escalate and escalate. Aaron Vercruysse has been on HRTV for alongtime and he loves to pick longshots and at first I thought he's crazy for picking those crazy longshots and I often call him the crazy dude but when one of his longshots came in I thought wow he could really handicap horses pretty good. I still call him the crazy dude but he still is knowledgeable at what he does. Becky Witzman used to be the assistant trainer for Richard Mandella for alongtime and then turned HRTV on-air analyst and really knows what she's saying and was at one point a key member of the daily broadcasts but for the past few years she's been doing filler spots and moved onto producing as well as she serves as HRTV's producer for Race Day America but still think she knows what she's saying. Kurt Hoover has been alongtime southern california horse racing tv host for for like two decades as a fixture in the paddock at both santa anita and hollywood park and his commentary has been on seen for a few years on ESPN and knows what he's talking about and he himself is a gambler in his own right and knows what he's saying and has been doing it forever too. Carolyn Conley was an excersise rider for numerous southern california trainers before making the transition to television. She worked on Santa Anita's in-house and shows on Fox Sports Net and even served as hostess of the Monmouth Park in-house and replay show on Fox Sports New York. Then saw her do some work for the "NTRA Champions on FOX" on their regional coverage. When those shows were gone she disappeared from television and horse racing for a while. Back in Septemeber 2006, when I turned on HRTV for their Atto Mile coverage guess who Becky Witzman was with. Carolyn Conley! I was so happy to see her back on television and horse racing. I thought to myself is she back full-time or something? And she is. I always wondred what happend to her. I always see her at Santa Anita everytime am their during the winter or Oak Tree meets. Gary Stevens is a hall of fame jockey who has won kentucky derbies and breeders cups and then turned into a tv analyst for tvg network but after a few years he now is at hrtv and he really knows what he's saying and his commentary is great on hrtv and has also been a longtime analyst on NBC Sports as well and knows what he's saying. I like when jockeys turn to television broadcasting because when they were riders they stratigize a race to see who would go to the front and who would come from behind and that's what jockeys do and gary used to do that and he offers great insight to hrtv. Zoe Cadman was a jockey in Chicago for 4 years before marrying Larry Sterling Jr. and turning to both television and exercise riding in the mornings and started working on television as the horse-back riding reporter/analyst for arlington park and did spent one winter on tvg and spent a few seasons at arlington park before moving to california and coming to hrtv full-time and she really is awful as a handicapper and really all she does is just laugh and giggle and certainly belongs on TVG rather than being on this network because the clown network is TVG not HRTV. Karen M. Johnson is HRTV's Editorial Producer and sometimes appears on air to report on the big races and as usual makes appearances during the saratoga meet and has reported on the horse races for several years as a journalist for the daily racing form, ntra.com and for bloodhorse.com. Quit those jobs and moved to California where she often appears on-camera to report on the big stakes races i can't comment on her handicapping because she doesn't really handicap she just reports.
Sean McCArthy he is currently a trainer in southern california who's been on HRTV for a while now and he was a jockey for a while and an exercise rider as well. I think he's an alright handicapper but he can be a little bit boring sometimes. Peter Lurie has had jobs at the racetrack like he was jockey agent and i do believe he still is a horse owner who has a passion for the game and that's why his knowledge for horses is pretty good and knows his stuff alot. Gary Mandella is a trainer here in Southern California who is the son of hall of fame trainer richard mandella and he's no stranger to racing television in fact he was part of tvg network when it first launched and he was on it for the 1st few years before going to train solo. He eventually cameback to racing television but working on hrtv and i must say he really knows what he's talking about and he's great addition to the hrtv stable of analysts that know what they're saying.
Caton Bredar who is one of horse racing's most knowledgeable television horse racing analysts around who has been on horse racing television for two decades first serving as a simulcast handicapper for arlington park, monmouth park, meadowlands, atlantic city, hileah park, and calder. after those paddock roles, served as a tv analyst/reporter for espn's racing telecasts and served as a tvg anchor/analyst/reporter when it first came on the air. after that, turned into a news anchor for a while on louisville's wave 3 but cameback into the racing television scene and has landed back on a horse racing network but on HRTV though and also works on ESPN's horse racing coverage, horse player now and on siruis radio as well. She's kind of HRTV's on-site analyst/reporter reporting outside of the studio and knows what she's saying and has been doing it forever as well. Jill Byrne who is married to trainer pat bryne and is the daughter of trainer peter howe as she was also an exercise rider for him and Scotty Schulhofer. She was a TVG Analyst/Reporter for several years reporting in-studio and on-location. She was only used imo during the kentucky events and other events but would be in-studio like once or twice a year. She then left her role to become Churchill Downs' Director of On-Air Communications and a year before that she was hired to be the paddock host at churchill downs which she still continues that role today. She joined rival network HRTV and has been their for a few years and she also contributes to twinspires tv.com too. To me I think her knowledge is very good in Kentucky than it is elsewhere and I think she's okay elsewhere. She does tend to pick the chalk too much which that's the only knock I have against Jill. Fanny Salmon is like Europe's Veteran Reporter that has been around several years covering the biggest events in horse racing and comes around during the Breeders Cup season to report on how the European horses are doing and that's why she's HRTV's International Reporter I think she's a fine interviewer but can't sometimes understand her english too well and can't comment on her handicapping because she doesn't really handicap she just reports on how the euros are doing. Alyssa Ali is the daughter of train Al Ali a trainer at Arlington Park and she arlington park's promotions coordinator and racetrack reporter. She was last year Gulfstream Park's television host/reporter/analyst and prior to that she served the entertainment reporter for arlington park as well. She also works as the producer for the television department too. She has been working for HRTV since she worked at Gulfstream Park and makes appearances during Arlington Park's Meet this year and her reports are often on HRTV too besides the Racetrack feed. Also, she reports on select races for arlington park and has improved on her reports and comments on the races a lot.
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