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Re: Jockey Jordan Springer????????????????

Postby Charfilly » Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:12 pm

Read the discussion between Bruno DeJulio and one of the owners of Engine 69 on Facebook....very interesting !!!! :lol:
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Re: Jockey Jordan Springer????????????????

Postby RelaunchRMH » Sat Aug 29, 2009 9:18 pm

Charfilly wrote:Read the discussion between Bruno DeJulio and one of the owners of Engine 69 on Facebook....very interesting !!!! :lol:



Maybe a link to the chat?
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Re: Jockey Jordan Springer????????????????

Postby RelaunchRMH » Sat Aug 29, 2009 9:48 pm

I did find this in the NC Times -- just makes me more upset for my Dad's Pick-3 -- and everyone else who had Engine Sixty Nine:



JEFF NAHILL - jnahill@nctimes.com | Posted: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:55 pm

DEL MAR ---- A jockey's ride in the fifth race Friday at Del Mar left track stewards "dumfounded" and looking for answers. Jockey Jordan Springer appeared to have the race won aboard 13-1 long shot Engine Sixty Nine when she had a three-length lead at the head of the stretch. But Springer never hit the 4-year-old gelding once during the stretch drive and appeared to be in a gallop approaching the finish line when jockey Joe Talamo and Autocue ($23.40) caught Engine Sixty Nine in the last jump to win the race. It was one of the strangest rides veteran racegoers have seen at Del Mar in quite some time.

"I don't know what to think at this point," steward Tom Ward said immediately after the race. "We're just dumbfounded." Ward said the stewards were considering calling Springer in for a talk on Saturday to explain her actions and later announced there would be such a meeting. Springer, 31, admitted that she "messed up." "I thought I had it," she said in the jockey's room. "I showed him the (whip), but he was running for me and I thought I didn't need it. "I need to talk to the stewards. I messed up."

Formerly known as Jordan Charkoudian before she went back to her maiden name following a divorce, Springer has 79 career victories, including two this year from 38 mounts. She rode her first winner at Tampa Bay Downs in January 2005. According to her biography with the Jockey's Guild, her greatest achievement is winning a race for Hall of Fame trainer Bill Mott on Stephen Foster Day at Churchill Downs. Springer has ridden mainly in the Midwest. She broke yearlings at Juddmonte Farm in Kentucky and worked for trainers John Ward and Frank Brothers.

In the race, Springer jumped out to a clear lead, but at the head of the stretch, she turned and looked around to see how far in front she was. It was a very unusual move for any jockey. Ward said he talked to trainer George Papaprodromou about the lack of the use of the whip. "He said there was never anything said about not using the whip," Ward said. "He was upset." Springer, who has a degree in equine science and racing management, acknowledged that Papaprodromou was angry. "Yeah, he was upset," she said, "and I don't blame him." Papaprodromou didn't return a phone call seeking comment.

Ward said he wasn't sure what kind of sanctions Springer could face. "Maybe that's as good as it gets (with her)," Ward said. "She didn't seem to be in synch with the horse. She was more of a hindrance than a help." ...

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Re: Jockey Jordan Springer????????????????

Postby White Hat » Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:02 pm

When Springer surfaced in these parts a few months back, guess who gave her most /all of her mounts???
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Re: Jockey Jordan Springer????????????????

Postby DegenerationX » Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:18 am

None of this makes any sense why not ride to the wire if you are trying to get business?
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Re: Jockey Jordan Springer????????????????

Postby Spiketoo » Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:36 am

10 day suspension. May cost her like .75 mounts?

http://www.nctimes.com/sports/equestrian/racing/article_2dd77a9c-c7ac-5b8f-98ba-47f7d5ebab74.html

'Jockey Jordan Springer was suspended for 10 days by track stewards after her bizarre ride in Friday's fifth race.

Springer, 31, had a three-length lead in the stretch aboard 13-1 long shot Engine Sixty Nine but got caught at the wire when she failed to do anything with the horse in the stretch. Springer, who has 79 career wins, didn't hit the horse with the whip.

"The trainer told her not to hit the horse if she didn't have to," track steward Tom Ward said. "Obviously, the horse was very tired, but she thought she had enough horse.

"She was very apologetic."

Springer wasn't available for comment on Saturday, but said Friday that she had "messed up." Springer will be suspended for the final four days of the Del Mar meet, beginning Sept. 5, and the first six days of the Oak Tree meet at Santa Anita, beginning Sept. 30.

Springer was suspended for violating California Horse Racing Board Rule 1884 (unsatisfactory ride).

"It in all likelihood cost her the win," Ward said of Springer's lack of action in the stretch.

Ward said 10-day suspensions don't happen often on the Southern California circuit, but that this case warranted it.'
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Re: Jockey Jordan Springer????????????????

Postby Lurker » Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:49 am

I can remember the lategreat Willie Shoemaker being asked after a race why he didn't use the whip and he said...

"the horse was giving me everything he had, there was absolutely no point in using the whip at that point"

I guess he'd won more than 79 races at that point in his career so there was no inquiry, no suspension, but the race was pretty much the same, hmmmm!
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Re: Jockey Jordan Springer????????????????

Postby Syncopate » Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:22 am

10 day suspension ? She better be glad she's not in Canada or Australia- there it'd be more like a year.
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Re: Jockey Jordan Springer????????????????

Postby Hollywoodmike » Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:26 am

White Hat wrote:When Springer surfaced in these parts a few months back, guess who gave her most /all of her mounts???
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Re: Jockey Jordan Springer????????????????

Postby RelaunchRMH » Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:01 am

Lurker wrote:I can remember the lategreat Willie Shoemaker being asked after a race why he didn't use the whip and he said...

"the horse was giving me everything he had, there was absolutely no point in using the whip at that point"

I guess he'd won more than 79 races at that point in his career so there was no inquiry, no suspension, but the race was pretty much the same, hmmmm!


If she has been aggressively riding (as much as she is able) I wouldn't have had an issue about no whipping but she was figuratively doing nothing to urge her mount to the wire whip or not -- it was a head scratching moment to be sure.
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